[Ads-l] Antedating of "Journalist"

[Cohen, Gerald Leonard]

Might I be the first  on this listserv to thank Fred for his prodigious work 
in providing antedatings.  Kudos! There’s a wealth of material there, and
in particular I’m grateful for the two he provided for the term ragtime.

Gerald Cohen

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> On Sep 13, 2020, at 5:39 AM, Shapiro, Fred <fred.shapiro at yale.edu> wrote:
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> Subject:      Re: Antedating of "Journalist"
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> Let me try to explain what is going on.  I am aware of the fact that the in=
> complete citations I have been posting are not that informative, and I apol=
> ogize for that.  I discover a lot of antedatings, far more than anyone else=
> (other than the staff of the OED) has ever discovered.  I do my best to pr=
> eserve the information by sending the antedatings (usually with very full d=
> etails) to the OED and to ADS-L.  The antedatings for which I don't give fu=
> ll information are probably somewhat annoying to the OED and to ADS-Lers.
> 
> The reason why I sometimes give incomplete information is that I am an unus=
> ually busy person, with a responsible full-time job, a lot of family obliga=
> tions, a bunch of health problems, and many scholarly projects such as the =
> Yale Book of Quotations.  I just don't have time to always dot the i's and =
> cross the t's.  My recent batch of antedatings is deriving from my realizat=
> ion that I had a fair number of significant antedatings from 5 to 10 years =
> ago that I never sent to the OED or ADS-L.  My options are either to do the=
> work to fill in the details or to preserve the antedatings by sending them=
> on as is, and I have chosen the latter course of action.  I appreciate the=
> forebearance of those on this list who put up with my clogging their inbox=
> es.
> 
> Fred Shapiro
> 
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> From: Ben Zimmer <bgzimmer at gmail.com>
> Sent: Saturday, September 12, 2020 10:22 PM
> To: Shapiro, Fred <fred.shapiro at yale.edu>
> Subject: Re: Antedating of "Journalist"
> 
> Hi Fred! Great work with the latest batch of antedatings. Any reason you're=
> not giving the actual citation text for a lot of these? Especially for tho=
> se who don't have EEBO or the other databases you're using, the posts aren'=
> t hugely informative.
> 
> Best,
> Ben
> 
> 
> On Fri, Sep 11, 2020 at 9:30 AM Shapiro, Fred <fred.shapiro at yale.edu<mailto=
> :fred.shapiro at yale.edu>> wrote:
> journalist  (OED 1693)
> 
> 1635 in Early English Books Online
> 
> Fred Shapiro
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