[Ads-l] "California sober"

[Benjamin M Brainard]

I always thought that was called a "California Roll" vs stop

..ben

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On 12/9/21, 4:17 PM, "American Dialect Society on behalf of Grant Barrett" <ADS-L at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU on behalf of gbarrett at WORLDNEWYORK.ORG> wrote:

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    I've seen it as "Cali sober" on Reddit and there are many hits for it
    there. The oldest mentions for both forms of the expression are from
    about two years ago.

    https://www.reddit.com/search/?q=%22cali%20sober%22


    GB

    On Mon, Dec 6, 2021 at 5:51 PM Ben Zimmer <bgzimmer at gmail.com> wrote:
    >
    > Looks like "California sober" is to "sober" as "California stop" (i.e., a
    > rolling stop) is to "stop." (Larry Horn would call these "ironyms.")
    >
    > I discuss "California stop" (aka "Hollywood/Michigan/New York/Philly/St.
    > Louis/American stop") in these 2013 pieces on regional traffic terms:
    >
    > https://www.bostonglobe.com/ideas/2013/04/06/boston-driving-bad-needs-its-own-lingo/UM7UhGh5qCdZPVukFH37QN/story.html
    > https://www.vocabulary.com/articles/wordroutes/word-on-the-street-sketchy-traffic-lingo/
    >
    > --bgz
    >
    > On Mon, Dec 6, 2021 at 5:57 PM Bill Mullins <amcombill at hotmail.com> wrote:
    >
    > > "California sober" -- never ran across this before today.
    > >
    > >
    > > https://www.lx.com/entertainment/what-does-california-sober-mean-definition/45920/
    > >
    > >
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