[Ads-l] Another country heard from.

[Jonathan Lighter]

I'd never noticed "county" before, but John Garfield says it very clearly
in _Between Two Worlds_ (1944).

JL

On Tue, Jan 14, 2020 at 3:47 PM Peter Reitan <pjreitan at hotmail.com> wrote:

> "Another County Heard From" appears as the title of an act by "Chace and
> Davis, Ethiopian Comedians and Eccentric Song-and-Dance Artists" in an
> advertisement in the New York Clipper, November 21, 1874, page 272.
>
> According to Edward LeRoy Rice's "Monarchs of Minstrelsy" (available on
> HathiTrust), Lew Davis first started performing in 1867 in an act called
> Lew and Dick (Lew Davis and Richard Golden).  He apparently started
> performing with Chace in about 1874.  Chace started performing in 1870.
> Didn't quickly find any mention of their "county" show earlier than
> 1874, so it could have been based on something earlier - or if one of
> them developed it, it is not mentioned in the few references to them I
> could quickly find..
>
>
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> From: "Ben Zimmer" <bgzimmer at gmail.com>
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> >It's often claimed that "another county heard from" originated in the
> >closely fought presidential election of 1876, e.g.:
> >
> >https://www.yourdictionary.com/another-county-heard-from
> >https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/another_county_heard_from
> >
> >But as Grant Barrett points out on "A Way With Words," the "another
> county"
> >version had already become a stock phrase by 1868. (Grant speculates it
> >might have come from a line in a play or a joke circulating at the time.)
> >
> >https://www.waywordradio.org/another-country-heard-from-2/
> >
> >Here are two 1868 examples:
> >
> >Green Bay (Wisc.) Weekly Gazette, Mar. 21, 1868, p. 3, col. 1
> >https://www.newspapers.com/clip/42283140/another_county/
> >
> >The Vermont Record and Farmer (Brattleboro, Vt.), Aug. 12, 1868, p. 5,
> col.
> >1
> >https://www.newspapers.com/clip/42283160/another_county/
> >
> >There's also "another precinct heard from" from 1871...
> >
> >Appleton (Wisc.) Post, Oct. 12, 1871, p. 3, col. 2
> >https://www.newspapers.com/clip/42283360/another_precinct/
> >
> >...and "another district heard from" from 1875.
> >
> >Times Union (Brooklyn, NY), Sep. 25, 1875, p. 4, col. 2
> >https://www.newspapers.com/clip/42283479/another_district/
> >
> >
> >On Tue, Jan 14, 2020 at 10:13 AM Charles C Doyle <cdoyle at uga.edu> wrote:
> >
> >>  "Another COUNTY heard from" may be a little older . . . .
> >>
> >>  --Charlie
> >>  ________________________________
> >>  From: American Dialect Society <ADS-L at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU> on behalf of
> >>  Jonathan Lighter <wuxxmupp2000 at GMAIL.COM>
> >>  Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2020 9:38 AM
> >>  To: ADS-L at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU <ADS-L at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
> >>  Subject: Another country heard from.
> >>
> >>  [External Sender]
> >>
> >>  This formerly well-known phrase ('That opinion or remark is impudent or
> >>  otherwise uncalled-for') isn't in OED.
> >>
> >>  1883 _Seattle Post-Intelligencer_, in _Daily Astorian_ (Dec.23) 3:
> Another
> >>  Country Heard From.
> >>
> >>  1904 _Macon Telegraph_ (Apr. 5) 1:   "Another Country Heard From."
> >>
> >>  1914 _Ft. Worth Star Telegram_ (Dec. 13) 2: Election Slang...."Another
> >>  country heard from" originated during the Hayes-Tilden combat [1876]
> as a
> >>  result of the slow returns from contested Southern states.
> >>
> >>  Etc., etc.
> >>
> >>
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