[Ads-l] science-fiction, 1898 antedating (?)

Stephen Goranson goranson at DUKE.EDU
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On Wed, Feb 03, 2021 at 02:27:45PM +0000, Shapiro, Fred wrote:
> Thank you.  What database was it in
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> "writer of science-fiction"
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> What kind of search did you do to find the 1898 citation ?
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> Stephen's discovery of this 1898 citation is a major one.  The OED has the following citation, under the sense of "A work of science fiction" (isn't that a circular definition?):
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> 1897   H. B. Mason in Pharmaceut. World 20 May 592/1   My last remembrance had been of reading Mr. [J. U.] Lloyd's Etidorhpa... The complete arrest of bodily function and tissue waste which the central figure of that remarkable science-fiction achieved at the point where gravitation ceases, somewhere between here and China, impressed me deeply.
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> However, Stephen's 1898 citation is clearly referring to the genre, and to the modern usage of the term.
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> Bulletin of Pharmacy [Detroit], October, 1898, v. 12 n. 10 p. 466/1.
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> Mr. H. G. Wells, the imaginative writer of science-fiction, has recently brought out a thrilling romance whose basis is the intended conquest of the earth by the inhabitants of Mars. In "The War of the Worlds," Mr. Wells tells us [....]
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