[Ads-l] background of a quote

Shapiro, Fred fred.shapiro at YALE.EDU
Mon Nov 1 15:19:53 UTC 2021


The New Yale Book of Quotations has the following:

Dope will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no dope.
Quoted in The Rag (Austin, Tex.), 24 Nov. 1969

Fred Shapiro

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Sent: Sunday, October 31, 2021 9:14 PM
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Subject: Re: background of a quote

Another variation on the theme: "Love will get you through times of no sex
better than sex will get you through times of no love," from Tom Rapp's
song "Love/Sex" (on his 1973 album "Sunforest").

On Sun, Oct 31, 2021 at 9:09 PM Laurence Horn <laurence.horn at yale.edu>
wrote:

> "Love will get you through times of no money better than money will get you
> through times of no love"
>
> On Sun, Oct 31, 2021 at 8:55 PM Mark Mandel <markamandel at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > But notice the swapping of order /superiority between the two quotations.
> >
> > Mark A. Mandel
> >
> > On Sun, Oct 31, 2021, 8:40 PM Bill Mullins <amcombill at hotmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > > Sometime before 1984, Jerry Pournelle (an SF author who was a NYT
> > > bestseller but never won a Hugo award) said "Money will get you through
> > > times of no Hugos better than Hugos will get you through times of no
> > money."
> > >
> > > He was preceded by cartoonist Gilbert Shelton, whose character
> > > Freewheelin' Franklin Freak (of the Fabulous Furry Freak Brothers) said
> > > "Grass will carry you through times of no money better than money will
> > > carry you through times of no grass." (1969 or before) (usually quoted
> as
> > > "dope will get you through  . . .")
> > >
> > > Is the Dope/grass version the ur-text?  or are they both riffing off
> > > something earlier, of which I am not aware?
> > >
>

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