[Ads-l] Barry Popik?

Fri Oct 22 18:04:16 UTC 2021

> On Oct 22, 2021, at 1:26 PM, Shapiro, Fred <fred.shapiro at YALE.EDU> wrote:
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> I thought Barry's dropping off of ADS-L had more to do with his being offended by something I and two other "complete assholes" (Barry's terminology) did, rather than his politics.  But perhaps I am misremembering the situation.

As I recall, some list members complained that Barry was submitting too many posts about food items, and he was indeed offended by the criticism.  
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> The history of historical-lexicological research is full of unusual people, myself being one of them.  I believe Barry has contributed more to such research than anyone else besides myself.  His departure from ADS-L was a significant loss to the study of the English language, although it may be that much of the same material he would have contributed is on his impressive website.
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> 

Hear hear.  Unfortunately not here here.  

LH
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> To: ADS-L at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU <ADS-L at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
> Subject: Re: Barry Popik?
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> LinkedIn does not generate connection requests automatically. It does
> *offer* you to request a connection with someone you think you should know.
> If you have a request, it comes from the owner of the profile. If you have
> a suggestion, it's likely from you email connections, generated by
> LinkedIn. There's a difference in how these are processed by LinkedIn. When
> you request a connection, it prompts you for some information on how you're
> connected. If it's a suggested connection, there's less prompting. If it's
> a requested connection, you're connected with one click.
> 
> Yes, it seems to be the same Barry Popik. I routinely see a suggested
> connection on Facebook but not on LinkedIn. In case people forgot, he's
> been staying off the list because of (his) politics. I'm not sure how his
> political leanings have evolved in the past 5 years. But he's been
> perfectly charming and extremely knowledgeable as long as politics isn't
> implicated.
> 
> VS
> 
> On Wed, Sep 22, 2021, 09:20 Jesse Sheidlower <jester at panix.com> wrote:
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>> I'm not sure what's so unusual about this. There are different forms of
>> requests, but whether it came from Barry directly or was generated
>> automatically by LinkedIn, why wouldn't you assume that this is accurate?
>> 
>> I am a first-degree connection with Barry on LinkedIn (a site that I find
>> almost totally useless, for what it's worth), and his identifying info on
>> the site is exactly what's being reported here--RPI degrees, JD from Truro,
>> lives in Goshen--and what I know to be true because I know him. The picture
>> is a picture of Barry. If the Barry-like person contacting you is also
>> friends with me (and other language types like Ben Zimmer), you should be
>> extremely sure that it's really our Barry. Whether you want to connect with
>> him there is a separate thing, of course.
>> 
>> Jesse Sheidlower
>> 
>> On Tue, Sep 21, 2021 at 09:24:23PM -0400, Wilson Gray wrote:
>>>> I doubt that he
>>>> initiated the Linked-in message Jim Landau received.
>>> 
>>> I've fallen for that one, myself. I was suckered into joining Facebook by
>>> an invite supposedly from someone else who went to MIT, subsequently
>>> becoming famous in the field, as this writer, sadly, has not. I'm still
>>> cringing.
>>> 
>>> On Tue, Sep 21, 2021 at 8:56 PM Cohen, Gerald Leonard <gcohen at mst.edu>
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> The main news about Barry Popik is that he is continuing
>>>> work on his extraordinary blog about words and expressions (
>> barrypopik.com
>>>> ).
>>>> Barry was trained as an attorney ( don't know at which university), but
>>>> Wikipedia mentions only his work on
>>>> etymology:
>>>> 'Barry Popik (born 1961) is an American etymologist.
>>>> Popik is a consulting editor of the Oxford Encyclopedia
>>>> of Food and Drink in America and was described in The Wall Street
>> Journal
>>>> as "the restless genius of American etymology".'
>>>> Btw, he does live in Goshen, NY, and I doubt that he
>>>> initiated the Linked-in message Jim Landau received.
>>>> 
>>>> Gerald Cohen
>>>> (who has co-authored several books with
>>>> Barry)
>>>> bcc: Barry Popik
>>>> 
>>>> ________________________________
>>>> From: American Dialect Society <ADS-L at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU> on behalf of
>>>> James Landau, jjjrlandau at NETSCAPE.COM
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2021 7:00 PM
>>>> To: ADS-L at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU <ADS-L at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
>>>> Subject: Barry Popik?
>>>> 
>>>> I thought Barry Popik was living in Arizona, but I just got a
>> mysterious
>>>> LinkedIn connection request from "Barry Popik, BS Rensselaer
>> Polytechnic,
>>>> Doctor of Law Touro College". According to the LinkedIn request,
>>>> Dr. Popik is living in Goshen, Orange County, New York.
>>>> If this is our old ADS-L colleague, then the BS from Renssalaer implies
>>>> a technical degree. Perhaps in nuclear physics, which could use an
>>>> etymologist before it gets totally swamped by terminology like "quark",
>>>> "muon", "Higgs boson", "collapse of the wave function", and "dark
>> energy".
>>>> 
>>>> James Landau
>>>> jjjrlandau at netscape.com
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