[Ads-l] turn on a dime (1911), stop on a dime (1921)
Peter Reitan
pjreitan at HOTMAIL.COM
Thu Sep 9 04:53:28 UTC 2021
Not antedating anything, but if a "jitney" was a nickel and later a bus,
this 1915 headline and article about a Jitney seems kinda "meta."
"Jitney Turns Around on Dime - But for the ability of a jitney to turn
around on a dime, a bad smash was narrowly avoided at the corner of
Ninth avenue and Olive street yesterday about noon."
Eugene Morning Register (Oregon), December 26, 1915, page 3.
https://www.newspapers.com/clip/85003138/morning-register/
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>An 'answer' at ELU,
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>https://english.stackexchange.com/a/552273
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>links to an example of 'turn on a dime' from 1893 (middle column, 2nd
>para from bottom),
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>https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=pst.000060119063&view=1up&seq=502&size=125&q1=dime
>
>"a little chestnut that was quick as a flash and could turn on a dime"
>
>and an example of 'stop on a dime' from 1919,
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>https://www.newspapers.com/image/93431219/?terms=%22stop%2Bon%2Ba%2Bdime%22
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>"because you can stop on a dime with those brakes".
>
>On 9/8/21 1:47 PM, ADSGarson O'Toole wrote:
>> Here is another coin employed to measure turning radius in 1902.
>>
>> Date: January 23, 1902
>> Newspaper: The Burlington Free Press
>> Newspaper Location: Burlington, Vermont
>> Article: Hope Ahead For The Horse
>> Author: Rene Bache
>> Quote Page 2, Column 4
>> Database: Newspapers.com
>>
>> https://www.newspapers.com/image/197088662/?terms=ideal
>>
>> [Begin excerpt]
>> An ideal polo pony has "quarters like a cart-horse," and should have
>> such control of himself as to be able to "turn on a dollar."
>> [End excerpt]
>>
>> Garson
>>
>> On Wed, Sep 8, 2021 at 3:19 PM Ben Zimmer <bgzimmer at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> The OED entry for "dime" hasn't been updated with the idiom "(turn/stop) on
>>> a dime," though Oxford Dictionaries has it ("used to refer to a maneuver
>>> that can be performed by a moving vehicle or person within a small area or
>>> short distance").
>>>
>>> HDAS has an earlier expression, "turn on a five-cent piece," from 1881. The
>>> same quote appears in newspaper databases as early as Oct. 17, 1879,
>>> excerpted from an article by A.A. Hayes, Jr. in the Nov. 1879 issue of
>>> Harper's. ("Turn on a ten-cent piece" shows up starting in 1891.)
>>>
>>> https://www.newspapers.com/clip/84969173/turns-on-a-five-cent-piece/
>>>
>>> HDAS has "turn on a dime" from 1918 but doesn't have "stop on a dime."
>>>
>>> * turn on a dime (1911)
>>>
>>> ---
>>> https://www.newspapers.com/clip/84966683/turn-on-a-dime/
>>> Galveston (Texas) Daily News, Mar. 18, 1911, p. 3, col. 6
>>> While the ship was being turned and docked her fast little steam launch
>>> darted about doing its share of the task like something with human
>>> Intelligence. It was a fast little craft and could almost turn on a dime in
>>> a jiffy.
>>> ---
>>> https://www.newspapers.com/clip/84966716/turn-on-a-dime/
>>> Washington Post, May 28, 1911, Sporting Section, p. 4, col. 7
>>> The only difference in equipment is in the shoes, the American ponies
>>> wearing light plates with a flange on the outer rim and the English ponies
>>> having the flange on the inside of the shoe, which in their opinion is the
>>> part of the foot most needing a bracing when a pony turns "on a dime."
>>> ---
>>>
>>> * stop on a dime (1921)
>>>
>>> ---
>>> https://www.newspapers.com/clip/84965918/you-can-stop-it-on-a-dime/
>>> Indianapolis News, Jan. 27, 1921, p. 19 (advt.)
>>> The New Design 1921 Franklin [...]
>>> Increased leverage makes transmission footbrake 30% powerful. You can stop
>>> it on a dime.
>>> ---
>>> https://www.newspapers.com/clip/84966009/stop-on-a-dime/
>>> Herald and Review, Decatur, Ill., Mar. 25, 1921, p. 6, col. 2
>>> They [sc. buses] will get you down town a little quicker than the street
>>> cars, sometimes, and often furnish you with many thrills enroute by
>>> stunting in front of an 18 ton street car that cannot stop on a dime, no
>>> matter how careful the operator, or ignoring the watchman's warning at the
>>> railroad crossing.
>>> ---
>>> https://www.newspapers.com/clip/84966090/stop-on-a-dime/
>>> South Bend (Ind.) Tribune, May 2, 1922, p. 2, col. 6
>>> It is true that "flivvers" can stop on a dime but some drivers forget that
>>> they sometimes back up.
>>> ---
>>>
>>> --bgz
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