[Ads-l] Antedatings of "screwball"

Jonathan Lighter wuxxmupp2000 at GMAIL.COM
Fri Aug 12 15:19:32 UTC 2022


And not just Steeleye (with the inicredible Maddy Prior).The exceptional
Andy Irvine too:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VJNcEgTTCXY

JL

On Fri, Aug 12, 2022 at 10:56 AM Laurence Horn <laurence.horn at yale.edu>
wrote:

> Well, a lot of horse hockey under the bridge over the last 200 years, but I
> notice that the Grey Mare, despite being the betting favorite, was already
> eating the noble Skewball's dust back then, as she still does in the age of
> Joan Baez, Peter Paul & Mary, et al.  Well, Stewball's dust.  (Squire
> Mirvin seems to have fallen out of the story.) Steeleye Span preserves
> Skewball's name in the original form along with the hapless and nameless
> Grey Mare: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8bZJk0G4U_8
>
> LH
>
> On Fri, Aug 12, 2022 at 8:16 AM Jonathan Lighter <wuxxmupp2000 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > And here's Skewie with long esses:
> >
> > https://tinyurl.com/4xtvvebt
> >
> > JL
> >
> > On Fri, Aug 12, 2022 at 8:08 AM Jonathan Lighter <wuxxmupp2000 at gmail.com
> >
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Yes, indeedy. In 1868, e.g.:
> > >
> > > https://tinyurl.com/2p8pt92k
> > >
> > > JL
> > >
> > >
> > > On Fri, Aug 12, 2022 at 8:02 AM Jonathan Lighter <
> wuxxmupp2000 at gmail.com
> > >
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On Thu, Aug 11, 2022 at 9:49 PM Laurence Horn <laurence.horn at yale.edu
> >
> > >> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> So "Stewball" started out as "Skewball", who started out as
> "Skewbald",
> > >>> not
> > >>> to be confused with "Piebald"--a more widely attested equine but with
> > no
> > >>> musical legacy.
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> On Thu, Aug 11, 2022 at 9:09 PM Jonathan Lighter <
> > wuxxmupp2000 at gmail.com
> > >>> >
> > >>> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>> > I
> > >>> >
> > >>> > 1866: OED (in cricket)
> > >>> >
> > >>> > 1839  _Sun_ (Baltimore) (June 10) 3: AUCTION OF DURHAM
> > >>> > CATTLE..._Screwball_, red and white, bred by Gen. Gresham Parsons,
> of
> > >>> > Brighton, Mass.
> > >>> >
> > >>> > Doubtless an unlisted variant of "skewbald." Cf. "Skewball was a
> > >>> > racehorse...."
> > >>> >
> > >>> > II
> > >>> >
> > >>> > 1933: OED
> > >>> >
> > >>> > 1932  _Milwaukee Journal _ (Nov. 8) 24: Johnny “Screwball” Blood –
> > >>> Whence
> > >>> > that “screwball”? Well, sir, it’s this way – Mr. Blood is a bit of
> an
> > >>> > eccentric. He is inclined to cut capers.
> > >>> >
> > >>> > JL
> > >>> > "If the truth is half as bad as I think it is, you can't handle the
> > >>> truth."
> > >>> >
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> > >>
> > >
> > >
> > > --
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> >
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