[Ads-l] Antedating of "Nitty Gritty"

ADSGarson O'Toole adsgarsonotoole at GMAIL.COM
Tue Feb 15 01:47:34 UTC 2022


Fred Shapiro wrote:
> nitty gritty (OED 1940)
> 1934 Washington Tribune 26 Apr. 18/7 (Readex)  Gable ... has the art of hitch-hiking down to a nitty-gritty.

A brilliant antedater posted this citation back in 2018.
http://listserv.linguistlist.org/pipermail/ads-l/2018-September/152812.html

On Mon, Feb 14, 2022 at 8:20 PM Shapiro, Fred <fred.shapiro at yale.edu> wrote:
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> Part of Merriam-Webster's definition of "nitty gritty" is "specific practical details."  The 1935 citation is about specific practical details.  The sentence after the one I quoted is: "He even has the various thumb movements classified."
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> Fred Shapiro
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> Which is significantly different from the modern meaning:
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> the nitty-gritty
> ...
> the basic facts of a situation:
> *Let's get down to the nitty-gritty - how much will it cost?*
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> On Mon, Feb 14, 2022, 10:44 AM Shapiro, Fred <fred.shapiro at yale.edu> wrote:
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> > nitty gritty (OED 1940)
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> > 1934 Washington Tribune 26 Apr. 18/7 (Readex)  Gable ... has the art of
> > hitch-hiking down to a nitty-gritty.
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> > Fred Shapiro
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