[Ads-l] "snupper" - derivation and definition?

Wed Jan 26 16:11:16 UTC 2022

Here is a citation in an Indianapolis newspaper dated March 24, 1925
which refers to an article titled "The Junk Snupper" in "The Saturday
Evening Post". I was initially confused by this citation because I
knew there was an article titled "The Junk Snupper" in "The Saturday
Evening Post" dated March 20, 1926. How could the newspaper article
refer to a magazine article that was published about one year later?

Apparently, the title "The Junk Snupper" was used more than once in
"The Saturday Evening Post". The newspaper said that the article
appeared March 14th, (probably in 1925) but I have not been able to
find it in Google Books.

Date: March 24, 1925
Newspaper: The Indianapolis News
Newspaper Location: Indianapolis, Indiana
Article: Old Lithographs
Quote Page 6, Column 5
Database: Newspapers.com

https://www.newspapers.com/clip/93497871/junksnupper/

[Begin excerpt]
An article on "The Junk Snupper," in the Saturday Evening Post for
March 14 in discussing the old Currier and Ives lithographs says that
"a recent auction sale offered a collection of 290 of these prints and
drew an audience of 400 people, and at this sale a winter scene,
'Thanksgiving Day,' only 19x25 inches, brought $800.
[End excerpt]

Garson

On Wed, Jan 26, 2022 at 10:42 AM ADSGarson O'Toole
<adsgarsonotoole at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Here is an instance of "junk snupping" in September 1925. The writer
> was C. R. Clifford who also used "junk snupper" in 1926 as noted by
> James Eric Lawson.
>
> [ref] 1925 September 26, The Saturday Evening Post,  New Trails To Old
> Things: For the Collector of Americana by C. R. Clifford, Start Page
> 44, Quote Page 44, Column 1, The Curtis Publishing Company,
> Philadelphia, Pennsylvania. (Google Books Full View) [/ref]
>
> https://books.google.com/books?id=DBs7AQAAIAAJ&q=snupping#v=snippet&
>
> [Begin excerpt]
> Junk snupping is no mere plebeian sport. History doesn't state whether
> it was the joy of discovery or the joy of acquisition which motivated
> the adventures of George II, but a stock episode in the literature of
> all furniture chronicles says that the king on one of his tours made a
> find that delighted him. It was a quaint old spindle-backed chair in
> an out-of-the-way tavern. He bought it and installed it in Windsor
> Castle—hence the name Windsor chair.
> [End excerpt]
>
> Garson
>
> On Mon, Jan 10, 2022 at 11:25 PM James Eric Lawson <jel at nventure.com> wrote:
> >
> > I probably bit this off too short, not to mention typing "Dutch" when
> > the translation (to English 'grab') is of the Danish word 'snup'. To
> > expand on the shortness of my first post on this topic: in 1898
> > (antedating the 1924 citations in OED) a use in The Saint Paul Globe of
> > 17 May, p 7, already suggests the "misappropriation" sense:
> >
> > "The Twelfth boys had a heap of fun with a Hebrew junk man who was
> > 'snooping' around the camp during the morning."
> >
> > https://shorturl.at/pBHI5
> >
> > On March 30, 1926, an article titled "The Junk Snupper" by C.R. Clifford
> > appears on p 62 in The Saturday Evening Post. Among other uses of the
> > phrase (see link), the article includes this:
> >
> > "...my friend, Bill Lovell, the inveterate junk snupper."
> >
> > https://shorturl.at/ilCM6
> >
> > The November 1926 issue of House Beautiful, in an article titled "Chats
> > About Antiques", p 545, refers, I suppose, to the Clifford article
> > (among others?), and glosses 'junk snupper' thus:
> >
> > "A 'junk snupper', it seems, is a person who pokes in all the
> > out-of-the-way corners and unexpected places where rubbish and junk
> > accumulate, and picks up wonderful finds that other people have overlooked."
> >
> > https://shorturl.at/ekpIO
> >
> > An article titled "Rare Old Book Displays Silhouette of Harrison" in the
> > April 16, 1934 home edition of The Indianapolis Times, p 6, foregoes the
> > cutsy spelling and echoes Clifford, perhaps coincidentally, while adding
> > to the characterization of the snupper:
> >
> > "An inveterate 'junk snooper,' however, can rise to heights of
> > enthusiasm over a rare antique even though there is no hope of owning it."
> >
> > https://shorturl.at/wLR89
> >
> > On 1/9/22 12:47 PM, James Eric Lawson wrote:
> > > OED and Bartlett (_Dictionary of Americanisms_, 1848, 1859) derive this
> > > sense of 'snoop' from Dutch (and Low German). Modern Dutch 'snup' (long
> > > u) translates as 'grab'. Bartlett in 1859 (and possibly 1848) describes
> > > the use as "peculiar to New York".
> > >
> > > https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=mdp.39015005262970&view=1up&seq=465&q1=snoop
> > >
> > > See OED 'snoop', intransitive sense 1, "To appropriate and consume
> > > dainties in a clandestine manner. U.S." and the later development,
> > > transitive sense 3, "To steal, to misappropriate."
> > >
> > > On 1/9/22 12:36 PM, Nancy Friedman wrote:
> > >> The author of the New Yorker article is a self-described Millennial. The
> > >> author of the 1927 book is, of course, long dead.
> > >>
> > >> On Sun, Jan 9, 2022, 12:25 PM Charles C Rice <charles.rice at louisiana.edu>
> > >> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> I like the idea that someone who published a book in 1927 might be on
> > >>> Twitter. FWIW, I've been to quite a few estate sales in the New Orleans
> > >>> area and never seen or heard of a "snupper."
> > >>>
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> > >>>
> > >>> I came across "junk snupper" in Lizzie Feidelson's New Yorker article
> > >>> about estate sales, published online January 7, 2022:
> > >>>
> > >>> https://www.newyorker.com/culture/on-and-off-the-avenue/the-wild-wonderful-world-of-estate-sales
> > >>>
> > >>> I haven't been able to find a relevant definition or derivation for
> > >>> "snupper" in any of the dictionaries at my disposal. (Urban Dictionary has
> > >>> a fanciful entry for snupper = "snack" + "supper.") I did find a 1927 book,
> > >>> "The Junk Snupper: The Adventures of an Antique Collector," but the online
> > >>> excerpt wasn't very helpful. I've queried the author via tweet but haven't
> > >>> had a response.
> > >>>
> > >>> "Snatcher-upper," maybe?
> > >>>
> > >>> From the New Yorker article:
> > >>>
> > >>> In her book “Out of the Attic: Inventing Antiques in Twentieth-Century New
> > >>>> England
> > >>>> <
> > >>> https://www.amazon.com/Out-Attic-Twentieth-Century-Historical-Perspective/dp/1558497102?ots=1&slotNum=0&imprToken=f6bf2005-8525-1d6a-bf2&tag=thneyo0f-20&linkCode=w50
> > >>>> ,”
> > >>>> the social historian Briann Greenfield describes how, at the beginning
> > >>>> of the twentieth century, when the value of antiques began to rise, a
> > >>>> middle-class cadre of enterprising “junk snuppers” began departing in
> > >>>> cars from urban centers to the countryside, where they knocked on
> > >>>> farmhouse doors and kindly offered to relieve inhabitants of any
> > >>>> mint-condition Americana. She cites a 1907 antiquing guide called “The
> > >>>> Quest of the Colonial,” which advises junk snuppers to identify
> > >>>> possible marks by looking for “the sight of chairs on a porch.”
> > >>>>
> > >>>
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