[Ads-l] "casualty"

Sat Mar 19 14:04:32 UTC 2022

Talk about a lost cause:.

According to Encyclopedia Britannica, "The U.S. military reported 58,220
American casualties" in the Vietnam War.

https://www.britannica.com/list/9-questions-about-the-vietnam-war-answered

They mean "fatal casualties" only.

JL

On Sun, Mar 6, 2022 at 6:42 PM Jonathan Lighter <wuxxmupp2000 at gmail.com>
wrote:

> When missiles hit things, their warheads explode. That means a great many
> deaths/ injuries/ wounds/ casualties result from the customary hot steel
> fragments.
>
> But it may be that some journalists feel that "wounded" implies bullets
> only (which it doesn't).
>
> On Sun, Mar 6, 2022 at 4:57 PM Dan Goncharoff <thegonch at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Is part of the semantic change due to this being a war where few people
>> are
>> shooting at other people, but the injuries are mainly due to missiles
>> hitting things, so the injuries are indirect?
>>
>> On Sun, Mar 6, 2022, 2:15 PM Jonathan Lighter <wuxxmupp2000 at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > All I've been hearing on CNN and MSNBC has been "injured," not
>> "wounded."
>> >
>> > NPR, March 2
>> > https://www.npr.org/2022/03/02/1083968591/russia-ukraine-deaths-war  :
>> >
>> > "[T]he Russian Defense Ministry has confirmed a substantial number of
>> > casualties in Ukraine, announcing that 498 Russian troops have died and
>> > 1,597 more have been injured."...
>> >
>> > "Russian Defense Ministry spokesman Igor Konashenkov said that among
>> > Ukrainian troops, 2,870 have been killed, around 3,700 injured and 572
>> > captured."
>> >
>> > On Sun, Mar 6, 2022 at 12:32 PM dave at wilton.net <dave at wilton.net>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > >
>> > > I wonder if it correlates with "injured" being more likely to be used
>> > when
>> > > it's a shooting by police and "wounded" in shootings by others.
>> > >
>> > > Or perhaps "wounded" is carrying the connotation of military action.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > -----Original Message-----
>> > > From: "Jonathan Lighter" <wuxxmupp2000 at GMAIL.COM>
>> > > Sent: Saturday, March 5, 2022 10:48am
>> > > To: ADS-L at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
>> > > Subject: Re: [ADS-L] "casualty"
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > Quora.com:
>> > >
>> > > "In 6 weeks [in Iraq] the US accomplished its goal. In total, the US
>> > > coalition suffered 196 casualties and 551 injuries."
>> > >
>> > > I've also noticed for several years that cable news types usually say
>> > > people were "injured" in shootings or firefights, not "wounded."
>> Minor,
>> > > but curious.
>> > >
>> > > JL
>> > >
>> > > JL
>> > >
>> > > On Sun, Dec 27, 2020 at 6:31 AM Jonathan Lighter <
>> wuxxmupp2000 at gmail.com
>> > >
>> > > wrote:
>> > >
>> > > > James Gagliano, former FBI Special Agent, on CNN a moment ago:
>> > > >
>> > > > "Thankfully there were [only] three injuries in this, but no
>> > casualties.
>> > > > Nobody was killed during this blast."
>> > > >
>> > > > JL
>> > > >
>> > > > On Sun, Jun 12, 2016 at 12:08 PM Jonathan Lighter <
>> > > wuxxmupp2000 at gmail.com>
>> > > > wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > >> Of course he said "fifty-three" hospitalized.
>> > > >>
>> > > >> JL
>> > > >>
>> > > >> On Sun, Jun 12, 2016 at 11:56 AM, Jonathan Lighter
>> > > >> <wuxxmupp2000 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> > > >> > The mayor of Orlando officially announces "fifty casualties and
>> > > >> > forty-three hospitalized."
>> > > >> >
>> > > >> > A few minutes later a CNN anchor describes the crime as
>> "grievious."
>> > > >> >
>> > > >> > And just after that, a former CIA officer analyzes the situation
>> > > >> > "from an intelligence optic."
>> > > >> >
>> > > >> > JL
>> > > >> >
>> > > >> > On Mon, Oct 13, 2014 at 10:06 PM, Wilson Gray <hwgray at gmail.com>
>> > > wrote:
>> > > >> >> ---------------------- Information from the mail header
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>> > > >> >> Sender: American Dialect Society <ADS-L at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
>> > > >> >> Poster: Wilson Gray <hwgray at GMAIL.COM>
>> > > >> >> Subject: Re: "casualty"
>> > > >> >>
>> > > >>
>> > >
>> >
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>> > > >> >>
>> > > >> >> On Mon, Oct 13, 2014 at 12:56 PM, Jonathan Lighter <
>> > > >> wuxxmupp2000 at gmail.com>
>> > > >> >> wrote:
>> > > >> >>
>> > > >> >>> wounded in action
>> > > >> >>
>> > > >> >>
>> > > >> >> A.K.A. "WIA." I wonder WTF happened to "KIA" - "killed in
>> action" -
>> > > >> such
>> > > >> >> that a foreign company can sell tens of thousands of cars
>> bearing
>> > the
>> > > >> >> marque, "KIA," with no problem?
>> > > >> >>
>> > > >> >>
>> > > >> >> --
>> > > >> >> -Wilson
>> > > >> >> -----
>> > > >> >> All say, "How hard it is that we have to die!"---a strange
>> > complaint
>> > > to
>> > > >> >> come from the mouths of people who have had to live.
>> > > >> >> -Mark Twain
>> > > >> >>
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