[Ads-l] Further Antedating of American Sense of the Word "Football"

Dan Goncharoff thegonch at GMAIL.COM
Mon Mar 21 17:47:14 UTC 2022


Just wondering -- what was the "annual football convention" called in 1879?

On Mon, Mar 21, 2022, 1:45 PM Bill Mullins <amcombill at hotmail.com> wrote:

> 1880 New York Times​ 15 Oct.  2/1
> CHANGING FOOT-BALL RULES.
> SPRINGFIELD, Mass., Oct. 14. -- The Foot-ball Convention was held here
> yesterday.  Yale, Harvard and Princeton have been hitherto the only
> colleges represented, although Columbia and Amherst have both applied for
> two years to be admitted.
>
> 1880 Boston Daily Globe​ 17 Oct.  5/2
> Yale, Harvard and Princeton held their annual football convention at
> Springfield, Mass., on Wednesday last.
>
> 1880 Boston Daily Globe​ 17 Oct. 9/4
> While the cricket game was in progress, two foot-ball elevens from Harvard
> college, the one captained by George P. Keith and the other by W. H.
> Manning, played a very interesting and exciting match, the side of the
> former gentlemen winning by two goals, and a touch down to one goal for Mr.
> Manning's eleven.
>
> [this cite is especially relevant in that one of the rules that was
> codified was that teams would have eleven players as opposed to fifteen;
> thus this game was played under the "new" rules]
>
>
>
> [and the sense being antedated is OED, 2.d., 1881, not OED, 2.b., 1881.]
>
>
>
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> Shapiro, Fred <fred.shapiro at YALE.EDU>
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> Subject:  Further Antedating of American Sense of the Word "Football"
>
>
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>
> football (OED, 2.b., 1881)
>
> 1880 _Yale Daily News_ 1 Nov. 4/1 (Yale Daily News Historical Archive)
> The foot ball team did not go to Amherst Saturday.
>
> NOTE:  See below for delineation of this sense in the OED.
>
> Fred Shapiro
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Shapiro, Fred
> Sent: Sunday, March 20, 2022 7:21 AM
> To: ADS-L at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU <ADS-L at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
> Subject: Antedating of American Sense of the Word "Football"
>
> football (OED, 2.b., 1881)
>
> 1880 _Sun_ (N.Y.) 14 Nov. 5/5 (Newspapers.com)  The American Association
> game, under the new rules of 1880, was exemplified yesterday afternoon on
> the field of the Manhattan Polo Association ... It was the first match of
> the series for the championship of the College Football Association.
>
> NOTE: There are earlier uses of the word "football" in the context of U.S.
> intercollegiate games, but the OED clearly is restricting this sense to the
> sport subsequent to the rules changes that were completed on 12 Oct. 1880.
>
> Fred Shapiro
>
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