[Ads-l] Antedating of "What's Up, Doc?"

Mark Mandel markamandel at GMAIL.COM
Mon May 9 13:50:03 UTC 2022


And that, I think, puts a cap on the whole question. Nice research, all!

MAM

On Mon, May 9, 2022, 8:27 AM Jonathan Lighter <wuxxmupp2000 at gmail.com>
wrote:

> "What's up?" antedates 1850 in both Britain and America.
>
> Just sayin'.
>
> JL
>
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> > Sent: Sunday, May 8, 2022 2:56 PM
> > To: ADS-L at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU <ADS-L at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
> > Subject: Re: Antedating of "What's Up, Doc?"
> >
> > "Doc" indeed was a known nickname for Capt. Persinger, as noted in this
> > item from the Staunton (Va.) Spectator from Dec. 1872.
> >
> >
> >
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> > > > On Sun, May 8, 2022 at 10:45 AM Shapiro, Fred <fred.shapiro at yale.edu
> >
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > The March 2022 release of new words in the OED spotlights "what's
> up,
> > > > > doc?," with a first use of 1935.  Here is an earlier citation.
> There
> > > is
> > > > no
> > > > > reason to believe that Persinger was a doctor.
> > > > >
> > > > > 1882 _Staunton_ (Va.) _Spectator_ 5 Sept. 3/1 (Newspapers.com)  The
> > > > > Alleghany _Tribune_ has this paragraph: "A beautiful black-eyed
> > > Staunton
> > > > > lady's presence in Clifton Forge is surmised to be the reason of
> > Capt.
> > > > > Persinger's absence from the Cave at this particular juncture. At
> all
> > > > > events the smiles of joy that adorned his face evidenced that he
> was
> > > > > peculiarly satisfied with himself and the rest of mankind on this
> > > > > particular visit. What's up, 'Doc' ?"
> > >
> > >
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