[Ads-l] Antedating of "Implicature"

[Laurence Horn]

Ah, July. Now that makes sense; several months after the delivery (and
widely circulated draft) of the William James lectures. Or, as you suggest,
maybe Hare heard Grice use the term in an earlier presentation. (He
actually defined and exemplified the notions of conversational and
conventional implicatures in a 1961 paper but without using the terms.)
 Grice was so notorious for not publishing his work that in the editors of
a festschrift for him, Richard Grandy and Richard Warner, included a
bibliography of his publications across from a slightly longer list of his
"unpublications".

LH



On Mon, Nov 21, 2022 at 8:53 PM Shapiro, Fred <fred.shapiro at yale.edu> wrote:

> There's a number "12" in the lower left-hand corner of the page, which I
> read as a page number.  I don't know what the "12" refers to.  Thanks to
> Ben for correcting the page number.
>
> Fred Shapiro
>
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> The correct citation is:
>
> https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.jstor.org%2Fstable%2F2251842&data=05%7C01%7Cfred.shapiro%40YALE.EDU%7Cc42d98bb48b6415c037708dacc2bcc19%7Cdd8cbebb21394df8b4114e3e87abeb5c%7C0%7C0%7C638046785727239575%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=Cytqzfu9ChQSTydzvhQ0CsgMssJrgiCSwISHRvk5Le0%3D&reserved=0
> R.M. Hare, "Some Alleged Differences Between Imperatives and Indicatives,"
> _Mind_ New Series, Vol. 76, No. 303 (Jul., 1967), p. 309
>
> And a slight correction to the quote -- it's "implicatures," not
> "implicature." ("The first can, I think, be removed by a straightforward
> application of Mr Grice's recent work on what he calls 'implicatures'...")
>
> It's not clear if Hare was referring to Grice's William James lecture from
> earlier in 1967, as a footnote to the article identifies it as a paper read
> to a colloquium at Manchester in 1965.
>
> On Tue, Nov 22, 2022 at 1:45 AM Laurence Horn <laurence.horn at yale.edu>
> wrote:
>
> > Hmmm. At first I thought this must be a consideration or review of the
> > William James lectures he gave earlier in 1967 at Harvard (I believe
> spring
> > semester), while 1968 was the date of Grice's first publication (in
> > _Foundations of Language_) in which the term is used. But then I realized
> > that the reference to "_Mind_ 76:12" must be to p. 12 of the 1967 volume
> > (Vol. 76, or more technically LXXVI) of that journal, which would mean a
> > paper published in January and hence submitted in 1966, thus antedating
> the
> > William James lectures, which strikes me as odd. Then I checked p. 12
> (and
> > indeed the entire paper encompassing that page, an article about Plato's
> > _Cratylus_ and its debate on the nature of language)--no mention of
> either
> > Mr. Grice or implicature.  So a mystery.  If the volume is correctly
> cited
> > (and the volume number and year do match up), the reference can't be to
> p.
> > 12.  I checked other likely suspects in that issue, p. 112, p. 120, etc.,
> > but didn't find the missing reference. So maybe a later issue in that
> > volume (and hence a much higher page number)? That would make more sense,
> > especially one coming in late spring of 1967 or after.
> >
> > On the other hand, I hereby guarantee there will never be an antedating
> of
> > the OED's 1972 entry for "scalar implicature".
> >
> > LH
> >
> > On Mon, Nov 21, 2022 at 7:51 PM Shapiro, Fred <fred.shapiro at yale.edu>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > implicature (OED 1968)
> > >
> > > 1967 _Mind_ 76:12 (JSTOR)  Mr. Grice's recent work on what he calls
> > > 'implicature.'
> > >
> > > Fred Shapiro
> >
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