[Ads-l] Valid First Use of "Shit Happens" ?

[Jesse Sheidlower]

Fred probably knows about this, being a co-author of the book you cite....

The "stuff happens" examples (1944 and 1969) also cited there feel pretty strong to me. The Brown novel is different; it's a more general use ("once you know the reason why shit happens..."), not a universal expression of resignation. I've seen a number of other 1970s examples in this general use.

Green's Dictionary of Slang cites the 1990 "complete and uncut" edition of Stephen King's _The Stand_, and dates it to 1978; I think this is probably inaccurate: while this edition did restore a large amount of unused manuscript material that was cut from the original edition, it also included "new material that King added as he reworded the manuscript for a new generation", so I would not consider this reliable evidence for a 1978 use.

Here's a rock-solid 1983 example--same year as the Eble, but the right phrasing. This is from a Northern California sailing magazine, where it's presented multiple times as an example of a "cruising maxim":

1983 _38 North_ (Jan.) 139: _Shit happens_ The ocean-going equivalent of "That's life"...Our dinghy was stolen. "Shit happens." Your best crewmember runs off with your wife. "Shit happens."

https://archive.org/details/latitude3867jaunse/page/138/mode/2up

Jesse Sheidlower

On Thu, Oct 06, 2022 at 03:51:37PM -0400, Nancy Friedman wrote:
> I found a 1978 citation ("Tragic Magic," a novel by Wesley Brown) with
> evidence of earlier usage:
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> https://stronglang.wordpress.com/2015/08/18/shitlike-stuff-happens/
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> On Thu, Oct 6, 2022, 3:35 PM Shapiro, Fred <fred.shapiro at yale.edu> wrote:
> 
> > It has just dawned on me that I am responsible for a kind of etymological
> > urban legend that is not accurate.  The Yale Book of Quotations indicated
> > that Connie Eble printed "Shit happens" in her 1983 compilation of
> > University of North Carolina slang, and this factoid has gained some
> > notoriety in the media as the earliest known use of the proverb.  But
> > Eble's wording was actually "That shit happens."  To me that is not the
> > real proverb, as it refers to some specific shit as occurring with some
> > frequency.  The true proverb is a general proposition about the prevalence
> > of shit in the world, which the Eble citation is not.
> >
> > Can anyone help point me to the earliest discoverable general-proposition
> > citation for "Shit happens" ?
> >
> > Fred Shapiro
> >
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