[Ads-l] Quote: Never argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience
James Eric Lawson
jel at NVENTURE.COM
Mon Jan 30 21:29:28 UTC 2023
From my perspective, the quote you mention ("never argue with stupid
people, etc.") is of a piece with other similar advice, including
negative polarity fights with chimney sweeps, pigs, polecats (aka
skunks), et al. For some of these, and some early texts mentioning them,
see the question and answers at "Tinkle contest with a skunk", on
English Language & Usage:
https://english.stackexchange.com/q/486645
Quote Investigator articles are referenced in one of the answers there.
My latest discovery along these lines is in the Appendix of a 1705
edition of Defoe's _A true collection of the writings of the author of
The true born English-man_. The Appendix is of uncertain provenance, but
the advice is the usual:
1756 Leonard Howard *A collection of letters* v2, Appendix page 36
...if we quarrel with a Fool it is like taking up the Box or throwing
our Stake upon an empty Gaming Table, we have the Discredit to be seen
in the Place and can win nothing.
https://archive.org/details/collectionoflett02howaiala/page/36/mode/2up?q=quarrel
On 1/29/23 23:38, ADSGarson O'Toole wrote:
> The saying in the subject line is often attributed to humorist Mark
> Twain and comedian George Carlin without substantive evidence. Matt
> Seybold who is an Associate Professor of American Literature & Mark
> Twain Studies at Elmira College performed excellent research on this
> topic. He connected the saying to actor Yul Brynner and French artist
> Jean Cocteau.
>
> Now I’ve posted an article:
> https://quoteinvestigator.medium.com/316627b20567
> Abbreviated article: https://quoteinvestigator.com/2023/01/29/never-argue/
>
> [Begin acknowledgements]
> Great thanks to Marian T. Wirth, Brian Zachary Mayer, Thayne Davidson
> Muller, Robert McMillan, AnxiousPony, and Jane Bella whose inquiries
> led QI to formulate this question and perform this exploration. Also,
> thanks to Matt Seybold for his pioneering research.
> [End acknowledgements]
>
> Feedback and early citations would be welcome
> Garson
>
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