[Ads-l] sideboob

Mon Jul 17 16:36:14 UTC 2023

Nice interdatings, Garson.  Those really help to show continuity of use.  However, while it may have been an overstatement to say that “”sideboob” is not thereafter seen until late 2005,” I think my point stands that anything before late 2005 is really too early for mainstream discussion of the term.

John Baker

From: American Dialect Society <ADS-L at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU> On Behalf Of ADSGarson O'Toole
Sent: Monday, July 17, 2023 12:29 PM
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Subject: Re: sideboob

Yes, the meaning may have shifted. A search for modern instances
indicates that the term is occasionally used for inner sides.

John Baker wrote:
> Contrary to the timing suggested by Chrisman-Campbell, “sideboob”
> is not thereafter seen until late 2005, although it’s possible that the
> phenomenon and not the word was popular in the early 2000s.

Here are two Usenet messages containing "side boob” from 1997.

Usenet message
Timestamp: Jan 12, 1997, 3:00:00 AM
Newsgroup: rec.sport.boxing
Subject: 1/11 Showtime :( vs HBO :)
Posted by: Brenda Moran
https://groups.google.com/g/rec.sport.boxing/c/JFNc5LdwNY0/m/9VYt4qmIzgAJ<https://groups.google.com/g/rec.sport.boxing/c/JFNc5LdwNY0/m/9VYt4qmIzgAJ>

[Begin excerpt]
As my husband noticed, the opening side boob shot of the ring girl
dressing to open the show.
[End excerpt]

The citation above was mentioned in a note about the origin of the
term located here:
https://www.dictionary.com/e/slang/side-boob/<https://www.dictionary.com/e/slang/side-boob>

Usenet message
Timestamp: Jan 19, 1997, 3:00:00 AM
Newsgroup: alt.tv.highlander
Subject: NG Guys More Chaste?
Posted by: lowj
https://groups.google.com/g/alt.tv.highlander/c/7VyspHQB008/m/H5DAMO1RCPAJ<https://groups.google.com/g/alt.tv.highlander/c/7VyspHQB008/m/H5DAMO1RCPAJ>

[Begin excerpt]
This must be the 90's. Even the side boob shot of Cassandra at the end
of "Prophecy" didn't instigate a thread.
[End excerpt]

On Mon, Jul 17, 2023 at 11:16 AM Baker, John
<000014a9c79c3f97-dmarc-request at listserv.uga.edu<mailto:000014a9c79c3f97-dmarc-request at listserv.uga.edu>> wrote:
>
> Thanks, Garson, I was curious what poster was intended. I expect that it was either Sunburn or Saturn 3, since both posters reveal the sides of one or both breasts, although it is the inner and not the outer sides that are revealed. It is not unusual for the earliest uses of words, especially slang, to be different from later meanings.
>
> Contrary to the timing suggested by Chrisman-Campbell, “sideboob” is not thereafter seen until late 2005, although it’s possible that the phenomenon and not the word was popular in the early 2000s.
>
>
> John Baker
>
>
> From: American Dialect Society <ADS-L at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU<mailto:ADS-L at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>> On Behalf Of ADSGarson O'Toole
> Sent: Sunday, July 16, 2023 10:43 PM
> To: ADS-L at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU<mailto:ADS-L at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
> Subject: Re: sideboob
>
> Warning: Objectification
> John notes that the famous poster of Fawcett in a red swimsuit does
> not display "sideboob".
>
> The 2022 excerpt below discusses the 1994 citation for the remark
> mentioning sideboob attributed to Mike Myers. The author suggests that
> Myers might have been referring to a poster for the movie Sunburn. A
> google image search for posters of Farrah Fawcett in Sunburn does
> yield pertinent images. However, Fawcett's bathing suit has a plunging
> neckline that reveals the "inner" sides of her breasts. This does not
> correspond to the modern meaning of sideboob which I think refers to
> the "outer" sides of breasts.
>
> Year: 2022
> Book Title: Skirts: Fashioning Modern Femininity in the Twentieth Century
> Author: Kimberly Chrisman-Campbell
> Publisher: St. Martin's Publishing Group
>
> https://books.google.com/books?id=C5RVEAAAQBAJ&<https://books.google.com/books?id=C5RVEAAAQBAJ&><https://books.google.com/books?id=C5RVEAAAQBAJ&<https://books.google.com/books?id=C5RVEAAAQBAJ&>>
>
> [Begin excerpt]
> The Oxford English Dictionary credits the first published use of the
> term “side boob” (alt. “sideboob”) to Saturday Night Live cast member
> Mike Myers, who used it in a January 30, 1994, interview with The
> Sunday Times. He was referring to his first glimpse of the elusive
> anatomical region, on a poster of actress Farrah Fawcett (likely the
> one for her 1979 film Sunburn, in which her sleeveless wetsuit is
> unzipped to just below her breasts). But 1994 was also the year
> Elizabeth Hurley wore her Versace safety pin gown (see Chapter 3) and
> the sideboob emerged as a new erogenous zone, piggybacking on the rise
> of the naked dress. By the early 2000s, sideboob was the new cleavage,
> the subject of think pieces in Salon and The New York Times.
> [End excerpt]
>
> Fawcett appeared partially nude in the 1980 movie Saturn 3. There is a
> poster in which she is shown with a plunging neckline. The sides of
> her breasts are visible, but the image does not fit the modern notion
> of sideboob.
>
> On Sun, Jul 16, 2023 at 6:24 PM Baker, John
> <000014a9c79c3f97-dmarc-request at listserv.uga.edu<mailto:000014a9c79c3f97-dmarc-request at listserv.uga.edu<mailto:000014a9c79c3f97-dmarc-request at listserv.uga.edu%3cmailto:000014a9c79c3f97-dmarc-request at listserv.uga.edu>>> wrote:
> >
> > It’s a popular term in certain venues. Urban Dictionary has it from September 17, 2005, https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=sideboob<https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=sideboob><https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=sideboob<https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=sideboob>>
> >
> > A view of the female breast seen from a side; generally under loosely-fitting clothes. Very titillating (pun intended) and sexual without showing any overt nudity.
> >
> > There is so much sideboob at Los Angeles awards shows!
> >
> > My brother's g/f's sideboob totally distracted me from my own g/f.
> >
> >
> > Almost all published uses postdate the Urban Dictionary posting, but NewsBank has an outlier example from the Sunday Times, January 30, 1994, in an article discussing token “babe” roles in movies and relying in part on an interview with the actor Mike Myers:
> >
> > He [sc. Myers] thinks the American actress Heather Locklear is a babe. So is his mother-in-law, so is Farrah Fawcett she was the first woman he saw on a poster where he could see what he refers to as “side boob”.
> >
> >
> > I’m not sure what poster Myers was referring to; the famous poster of Fawcett in a red swimsuit emphasizes her breasts but does not contain sideboob, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Farrah_Fawcett_red_swimsuit_poster<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Farrah_Fawcett_red_swimsuit_poster><https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Farrah_Fawcett_red_swimsuit_poster<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Farrah_Fawcett_red_swimsuit_poster>>. As for Myers’s mother-in-law, that was Linda Richman, who was also the source of an affectionate parody character of the same name that Myers had created for Saturday Night Live. Richman is not otherwise particularly famous, although she is a public speaker and author.
> >
> >
> > John Baker
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> > Subject: sideboob
> >
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