[Ads-l] Possessive plurals
Betty Birner
bbirner at NIU.EDU
Sun Jun 25 18:30:44 UTC 2023
Friday night our (young) waiter said, “Can I get this board out of your guys’s way?” Pronounced [gaizəz]. And honestly, I’m sure I’ve heard "your guys's" many times, and may have even uttered it myself. FWIW, I'm about an hour north of Chicago.
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From: American Dialect Society <ADS-L at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU> On Behalf Of Jonathan Lighter
Sent: Saturday, June 17, 2023 3:42 PM
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Subject: Re: Possessive plurals
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Cf. "your guys's garage" (Apr. 24).
JL
On Wed, Jun 7, 2023 at 2:52 PM Laurence Horn <laurence.horn at yale.edu> wrote:
> > On Jun 7, 2023, at 2:06 PM, Jonathan Lighter
> > <wuxxmupp2000 at GMAIL.COM>
> wrote:
> >
> > He's still doing it, even putting up on the screen for us "the cats's"
> and
> > "the humans's."
> >
> > JL
>
> And presumably "the foxes’s” (= “fak-siziz”) and "the lynxes’s"
> (“link-siziz”)
>
>
> >
> > On Wed, May 31, 2023 at 12:02 PM Jonathan Lighter <
> wuxxmupp2000 at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> I've been watching these Latin lessons on YouTube:
> >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aWUlrL6E_QU
> >>
> >> The instructor (a native speaker of English evidently, and
> >> youthful-sounding) is clearly well educated, and he knows Latin.
> >>
> >> However, he says "abLAYtive" instead of "ABlative." He also talks
> >> about "female," "male," and "neutral" nouns instead of masculine,
> >> feminine,
> and
> >> neuter. More to the point, though, he routinely pronounces English
> >> possessive plurals with an excrescent "iz."
> >>
> >> Exx: students' > "studentsiz"
> >> soldiers' > "soldierziz."
> >>
> >> Is this something we should be doing? Or is it just a pedagogical
> >> stratagem?
> >>
> >> JL
> >> --
> >> "If the truth is half as bad as I think it is, you can't handle the
> truth."
> >>
> >
> >
> > --
> > "If the truth is half as bad as I think it is, you can't handle the
> truth."
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