[Ads-l] Revising The F-Word

Laurence Horn laurence.horn at YALE.EDU
Wed Mar 22 17:10:55 UTC 2023


Ah, reminds me of one I catalogued a while back, the celebrated (and
calibrated) measuring device known as the lack-o-fucksometer (TM):

Yeah, and while I'm not one to uphold a a show as "the documentary
experience," having such inaccuracies can just leave this ringing sense of
disconnect with those who know the language. And I know that sometimes,
that's just me --I've gotten into fights with friends over blatant
inaccuracies in media, because in their eyes, such things only matter to a
few people -- and I don't believe you need to give a fuck about EVERYTHING.
But there does come a point where a viewer's "lack-of-fucks-ometer" is
going to tick over the red line, and when it does, they'll start to wonder
if the scriptwriter gave a fuck about ANYTHING.

—trollthumper, poster on online message board, 2015

http://www.avclub.com/tvclub/unreal-mother-220905

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On Wed, Mar 22, 2023 at 12:13 PM Jesse Sheidlower <jester at panix.com> wrote:

> Thanks—I do mention this on the blog in the list of new entries, "‘a
> (single) instance of caring’, esp. in phrases like _to give no fucks_ or
> _zero fucks given_". I haven't decided precisely how to treat this; right
> now they're all lumped together. The earliest I have is 1945.
>
> Jesse
>
> On Wed, Mar 22, 2023 at 04:05:34PM +0000, Geoffrey Nathan wrote:
> > I tried to leave a comment on your blog, but it didn't
> > seem to 'take'. In any case, I just wanted to point out
> > a whole series of versions along the lines of
> >
> > 'X not have any fucks left to give'
> >
> > I don't have any specific cites, but it wouldn't be hard to find them.
> >
> > Geoff
> >
> > Geoffrey S. Nathan
> > WSU Information Privacy Officer (Retired)
> > Emeritus Professor, Linguistics Program
> > https://clasprofiles.wayne.edu/profile/an6993
> >
> > geoffnathan at wayne.edu
> >
> >
> > From: Jesse Sheidlower<mailto:jester at PANIX.COM>
> > Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2023 11:08 AM
> > To: ADS-L at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU<mailto:ADS-L at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
> > Subject: Revising The F-Word
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> > I am happy to be able to announce that I'm now actively working on a new
> edition of The F-Word. I've posted about it on the Strong Language blog,
> with examples of 20 entries I've currently drafted, and a longer list of
> specific things I'm looking for:
> >
> > https://stronglang.wordpress.com/2023/03/22/help-revise-the-f-word/
> >
> > I've done a lot of work so far; there are over 80 new items, and over
> 110 antedatings. But there's more to do! I've been grateful for comments,
> suggestions, and discussion of the word on ADS-L in the past, and I would
> be even more grateful for even more such right now! Seriously, anything
> anyone would be willing to say would be most appreciated: antedatings;
> suggestions for new entries; additional quotations; you want to see
> discussed in the introduction; corrections. And in particular, anything
> from my want-list: that's stuff that's harder to search, so people here
> might be better suited to help than the gen pop.
> >
> > Thank you.
> >
> > Jesse Sheidlower
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