[Ads-l] Quote: There ’s nothing to be learned from history any more. We =?UTF-8?Q?=E2=80=99re_?=in science fiction now

ADSGarson O'Toole adsgarsonotoole at GMAIL.COM
Fri May 19 02:52:13 UTC 2023


Thanks to all the respondents for their helpful comments. I agree with
Fred that Allen Ginsberg’s remark is a great quotation, and Ginsberg
was expressing a different meaning than the other commentators.

I added director Duncan Jones’s entertaining tweet about SF author
William Gibson to the article and acknowledged Ben. Changes should be
visible within 24 hours.

https://quoteinvestigator.medium.com/e35caa6f1f38

Many thanks to Charlie Doyle who was able to verify the 1954 quotation
in “Science Fiction Digest” by examining a copy of issue number one at
the University of Georgia Library in Athens.

Garson

On Wed, May 17, 2023 at 11:32 AM Jonathan Lighter
<wuxxmupp2000 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I concur.
>
> JL
>
> On Wed, May 17, 2023 at 11:09 AM Shapiro, Fred <fred.shapiro at yale.edu>
> wrote:
>
> > When I look at Garson's pre-Ginsberg quotations, I begin to wonder whether
> > "We're in science fiction now" is really an original great quotation by
> > AG.  My conclusion is that it is.  The quotes going back as far as 1954
> > were probably references to technology: cool new gadgets and the prospect
> > of travelling to the moon.  I think of Ginsberg's point as going beyond
> > technology to the transformation of human psychology and society, and that
> > is what makes this a great quotation.
> >
> > Fred Shapiro

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