[Ads-l] 'tor toyce

Jonathan Lighter wuxxmupp2000 at GMAIL.COM
Thu Nov 9 17:51:50 UTC 2023


Another example of Britons ruining our language with their runaway
innovations.

JL

On Thu, Nov 9, 2023 at 10:55 AM Laurence Horn <laurence.horn at yale.edu>
wrote:

> At least one British English speaker a while back took it for granted that
> TOR-toyss was not the pronunciation his readers would assume:
>
> “When we were little," the Mock Turtle went on at last, more calmly,
> though still sobbing a little now and then, "we went to school in the sea.
> The master was an old Turtle - we used to call him Tortoise -"
> "Why did you call him Tortoise, if he wasn't one?" Alice asked.
> "We called him Tortoise because he taught us," said the Mock Turtle
> angrily: "really you are very dull!”
>
> --AiW, Chapter IX
>
> Only works if it’s “TAW-tuss” /ˈtɔːtəs/, not “TAW-toyss” /ˈtɔːtɔɪs/ (or
> TAW-toyz).
>
> LH
>
> > On Nov 8, 2023, at 10:58 PM, James Eric Lawson <jel at NVENTURE.COM> wrote:
> >
> > According to OEDO, TOR-toyss is the second common pronunciation in
> British English, with TOR-toyz third.
> >
> > On 11/8/23 17:28, Jonathan Lighter wrote:
> >> That's how English archaeologist / YouTuber Stefan Milo pronounces
> >> "tortoise" on his YouTube channel.
> >> JL
> >
> > --
> > James Eric Lawson
> >
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