[Ads-l] More Re: Origin of the Phrase "Separation of Church and State"

[mr_peter_morris@outlook.com]

I stand corrected


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From "ADSGarson O'Toole" <adsgarsonotoole at GMAIL.COM>
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Date 16/04/2024 12:19:58
Subject Re: More Re: Origin of the Phrase "Separation of Church and 
State"

>Peter Morris wrote:
>>  1797
>>https://www.google.co.uk/books/edition/Thoughts_on_the_Christian_Religion/toW7vrJoETcC?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=%22Separation+of+church+and+state%22&pg=RA2-PA9&printsec=frontcover
>
>Unfortunately, the citation with a Google date of 1797 is really from
>1859. I also came across this match while searching. Google Books can
>be confusing when books are "pasted together". It is possible to
>scroll backwards from the matching text to check the date.
>Garson
>
>>  March  18 1798
>>https://www.google.co.uk/books/edition/Bell_s_Weekly_Messenger/Xqw2AQAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=%22Separation+of+church+and+state%22&pg=RA2-PA81&printsec=frontcover
>>
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>>  From "Shapiro, Fred" <fred.shapiro at YALE.EDU>
>>  To ADS-L at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
>>  Date 15/04/2024 13:43:51
>>  Subject More Re: Origin of the Phrase "Separation of Church and State"
>>
>>  >"Separation of church and state" also appears in J. Penn, A Timely Appeal to the Common Sense of the People of Great Britain (1798), page 56.
>>  >
>>  >Fred Shapiro
>>  >
>>  >________________________________
>>  >From: Shapiro, Fred <fred.shapiro at yale.edu>
>>  >Sent: Monday, April 15, 2024 8:21 AM
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>>  >Subject: Origin of the Phrase "Separation of Church and State"
>>  >
>>  >OED does not have an entry for the phrase "separation of church and state," although there is a citation for it in the entry for "separation."  This phrase is commonly traeed to an 1802 letter by Thomas Jefferson.
>>  >
>>  >Newspapers.com retrieves a 1798 occurrence of "separation of church and state" in the Evening Mail (London), 7 Feb. at page 3.  These words appear in a report of a convention at the Hague.
>>  >
>>  >Fred Shapiro
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