[Ads-l] "Pay It Forward" Not in OED

[ADSGarson O'Toole]

Excellent citations, Stephen and Bill. Thanks for sharing them.
Garson

On Thu, Dec 26, 2024 at 8:52 AM Stephen Goranson
<0000179d4093b2d6-dmarc-request at listserv.uga.edu> wrote:
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> The best way to repay our friends and teachers such a debt is to pay forward , or pay back by paying forward . Before we left college we were made familiar with the dental code of ethics . I remember standing with a classmate reading the code of ethics of the National Association . I asked him if he ...
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> Welch's Monthly...Dental-Art..., v.1. No.1 (August, 1896) p. 156
> "Some Thoughts on the Professional Attitude of the Young Dentist. H. F. Dean, DDS
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> Here is another interesting match, but the date is uncertain.
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> Year: Uncertain; HathiTrust metadata says 1899 but date is not visible
> in the book (metadata says 1909 on another edition with no visible
> date)
> Book: The Biblical Illustrator
> Author: Rev. Joseph S. Exell
> Volume 1: Romans
> Chapter 1
> Quote Page 39
> Publisher: Anson D. F. Randolph & Company, New York
> Database: HathiTrust Full View; Only snippet view in Google Books
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> [Begin excerpt]
> What would we be without the example, influence, sympathy of other
> men? We cannot pay the debt back to those that have gone; we can only
> pay it forward; to those they make their heirs, and every generous
> nature feels that unless he gives back to the world as much service as
> he takes from it, he is a delinquent and short of honour.
> [End excerpt]
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> Garson
>
> On Thu, Dec 26, 2024 at 12:55 AM ADSGarson O'Toole
> <adsgarsonotoole at gmail.com> wrote:
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> > Interesting topic, Fred. The phrase "paying it forward" with the
> > pertinent sense appeared in the religious periodical "Unity" within an
> > article discussing the death of conductor Theodore Thomas who was the
> > founder and first music director of the Chicago Symphony Orchestra
> > (according to Wikipedia).
> >
> > [ref] 1905 January 12, Unity, Volume 54, Number 20, (Untitled piece
> > about conductor Theodore Thomas), Quote Page 307 and 308, Unity
> > Publishing Company, Chicago, Illinois. (Google Books Full View) link
> > [/ref]
> >
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> > [Begin excerpt]
> > We cannot see how it could have been
> > otherwise as a private venture, but Theodore Thomas
> > ought to have been a public investment, a municipal
> > contribution to the public life of the city. Let those
> > who have been taught by the great band-master the
> > elevating power of a great orchestra justify their great
> > endowment, show their appreciation, acknowledge their
> > debt by paying it forward, as all high debts must be
> > paid. Great music should be made as cheap as good
> > air and pure water in a city as great as Chicago.
> > [End excerpt]
> >
> > Garson
> >
> > On Wed, Dec 25, 2024 at 8:55 PM Shapiro, Fred <fred.shapiro at yale.edu> wrote:
> > >
> > > The common phrase "pay it forward" does not appear to be in OED.  According to Wikipedia, it appears in the books Lily Hardy Hammond, In the Garden of Delight (1916) and Robert Heinlein, Between Planets (1951).
> > >
> > > Fred Shapiro
> > >
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