[Ads-l] new slogan

Laurence Horn laurence.horn at YALE.EDU
Tue Jan 2 19:09:45 UTC 2024


I knew about the code meaning of 88 for Heil Hitler, popular among alt-rightists in the U.S. as well as elsewhere, but didn’t see a direct connection with the Hamas invasion.  So we have Alice saying it’s for the 88 days since October 7 and Jerry saying it’s for Hitler.  Overdetermination? Or is one the right story and the other an etymythology, as it were?  

> On Jan 2, 2024, at 11:47 AM, Cohen, Gerald Leonard <gcohen at MST.EDU> wrote:
> 
> Larry asks: Why October 88?
> 
> Answer: H is the eighth letter of the alphabet.
> So 88 is HH, which for Neo-nazis is Heil Hitler.
> Here's an internet item in German:
> 
> Neonazismus: Die Zahl 88 wird unter Neonazis als
> getarnter Hitlergruß verwendet: Der achte Buchstabe
> des Alphabets ist das H; die 88 steht somit für HH,
> eine Abkürzung von Heil Hitler (siehe auch Rechtsextreme
> Symbole und Zeichen).
> 
> Gerald Cohen
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> Am I missing something? I could understand =E2=80=9CIt=E2=80=99s =
> (still/always) October 8=E2=80=9D, i.e. the day after October 7.  =
> (Recall all the references to =E2=80=9C9/12=E2=80=9D.) But why October =
> 88?
> 
> LH
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>> On Jan 2, 2024, at 11:02 AM, James Landau =
> <00000c13e57d49b8-dmarc-request at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU> wrote:
>> =20
>> "For some its a new year but for the Israelis its October 88!"
>> =20
>> I have now seen this slogan in both Facebook and email.
>> James Landau
>> jjjrlandau at netscape.com
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