[Ads-l] Antedating of "Lindy Hop"

ADSGarson O'Toole adsgarsonotoole at GMAIL.COM
Mon Mar 25 18:59:11 UTC 2024


Bill found a match for "Lindy Hop" in the Elmira Star-Gazette dated
June 2, 1927.
ProQuest has U.S. State Collections and the Elmira Star-Gazette is
contained in the New York state collection.
https://about.proquest.com/en/products-services/hnp-usstate-collections/
https://pq-static-content.proquest.com/collateral/media2/documents/brochure-hnpstate-ny.pdf

The match Bill found appeared in a column by Gilbert Swan called "In
New York". Swan's column also appeared a few days earlier in "The
Columbia Record" which is available via newspapers.com

Date: May 31, 1927
Newspaper: The Columbia Record
Newspaper Columbia, South Carolina
Article: In New York
Author: Gilbert Swan
Quote Page 4, Column 3
Database: Newspapers.com

https://www.newspapers.com/image/744607799/

[Begin excerpt]
Leave it to Tin Pan Alley! Hardly had Charley Lindbergh crawled out of
his plane at Le Bourget before the song publishers were out with one
called "Lucky Lindy" and another bearing the gosh-awful title of "Like
An Angel You Flew Into Everyone's Heart."
. . .
Obviously the first dance to be named for the Lindbergh flight was the
"Lindy Hop." Another will be called the "non-stop" and a third the
"French jump." Like all trick dances they will be done in a few
theaters and dance halls where experts appear—and that will be that.
[End excerpt]

On Mon, Mar 25, 2024 at 7:10 AM Shapiro, Fred <fred.shapiro at yale.edu> wrote:
>
> Another evidence of misdating is that in 1925 Lindbergh was an obscure cadet whom no one would have any reason to name a punch after.
>
> I am intrigued by Bill's two 1927 citations.  I am accustomed to ProQuest newspapers being big-city, large-circulation papers.  Does this mean that Bill has access to the more recent regional papers that PQ has added and that I don't have access to ?
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> Fred Shapiro
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> The 1925 citation is misdated.  There's a report of a recent fight between Loughran and Lomski discussed on the same page. The fight took place in January 1928. Another item on the page refers to baseball teams planning to hire new managers in 1929.
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> >   Lindy hop (OED 1931)
> >
> >   1930 _Minneapolis Sunday Tribune_ 2 Feb. 4/5
> >   (Newspapers.com)  The Negro dances under the glowing
> >   lights of a ballroom a block long ... he dances "the
> >   Lindy hop."
>
> [1925 Axtell [NE] Times 13 Dec 3/3
> Johnny Dundee, trying for a comeback, announces he has a new punch called t=
> he Lindy Hop.
> [newspapers.com]]
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> 1927 Pittsburgh Gazette Times 25 May 3/7
> LINDY 'HOP' DIFFICULT DANCE [headline]
> Broadway's tribute to Capt. Lindbergh may include the "Lindbergh Hop."
> [ProQuest]
>
> 1927 Elmira Star-Gazette 2 Jun 15/2
> Obviously the first dance to be named for the Lindbergh flight was the "Lin=
> dy Hop."
> [ProQuest]
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