[Ads-l] Why "Orangemen" ?

Mon May 13 01:54:33 UTC 2024

The definitive article on the origins of "Boola Boola," written by me some years ago, is the following:

https://yalealumnimagazine.org/articles/2552-who-really-wrote-boola-boola
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Who really wrote Boola Boola?<https://yalealumnimagazine.org/articles/2552-who-really-wrote-boola-boola>
Disputes over the authorship may never be resolved. But the most likely authors drew heavily from a pair of African American composers.
yalealumnimagazine.org

Fred Shapiro

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The other Yale-related lexical item that I would have thought would be included is "Boola Boola."

Fred Shapiro

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> On May 12, 2024, at 8:32 PM, Shapiro, Fred <fred.shapiro at YALE.EDU> wrote:
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> In this thread I have been thinking in terms of nicknames of athletic teams.  I now recognize that "Yalie" is in a different, broader category.

True, the corresponding athletic team nickname is “Bulldog”. And then there’s “Eli” for both, originally from its founder Elihu Yale, renowned benefactor and slave trader.  Bow wow wow/Eli Yale indeed.

LH

>  The OED seems to be more hospitable to the broader category than to athletic nicknames like "Fighting Irish."
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> Fred Shapiro
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> Subject: Re: Why "Orangemen" ?
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> Here are some Ivy League entries.
> Princetonian, yes. Harvardian, yes. Yalie, yes. Brunonian, yes.
> Columbian, there is an entry, the sense is broad; the 1903 citation
> seems to refer to students at Columbia University
> Cornellian, no entry.
> Big Green, no entry.
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> [Begin OED excerpt]
> Princetonian, n. & adj.
> A student at or graduate of Princeton University (formerly the College
> of New Jersey). (First citation 1807)
> [End OED excerpt]
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> [Begin OED excerpt]
> Brunonians, in Brunonian, adj. & n.
> U.S. Of or relating to Brown University or its members. (First citation 1781)
> [End OED excerpt]
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> On Sun, May 12, 2024 at 5:00 PM ADSGarson O'Toole
> <adsgarsonotoole at gmail.com> wrote:
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>> Fred Shapiro
>>> The only other U.S. college nickname I have found in the OED
>>> pertains to my own employer: "Yalie."  This may have gotten in
>>> because of the popularity of Erich Segal's book _Love Story_.
>>
>> [Begin OED excerpt]
>> Harvardian Noun
>> A student or graduate of Harvard University. (First citation 1702)
>> [End OED excerpt]
>>
>> Oxford, Cambridge, Harvard, and Yale are worthy.
>> Garson
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