[Ads-l] ADS-L Digest - 28 Sep 2024 to 30 Sep 2024 (#2024-256)

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Topics of the day:

  1. Antedating of "Female Husband"
  2. Antedating of "drop out" v. (2)
  3. Antedating of "dropout" n.

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Date:    Mon, 30 Sep 2024 15:20:34 +0000
From:    "Shapiro, Fred" <fred.shapiro at YALE.EDU<mailto:fred.shapiro at YALE.EDU>>
Subject: Antedating of "Female Husband"

female husband (OED 1746)

1682 (title of broadside) The Male and Female Husband in Jen Manion Female Husbands (2020) 285

Fred Shapiro

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Date:    Mon, 30 Sep 2024 16:31:00 -0400
From:    Steven Losie <stevenlosie at GMAIL.COM<mailto:stevenlosie at GMAIL.COM>>
Subject: Antedating of "drop out" v.

To drop out (v.2, OED3, 1883)

The OED provides the definition: "To withdraw or disappear from one's (or
its) place in a series, group, etc.; to disappear from public notice; spec.
to ‘opt out’ from society."

[begin quote]
Our country — If her _measures_ are _justified_ by strict policy, the
_section_ that _drops out_ should be ejected from the _fount_.
[end quote]
"Washington's Birthday", Washington (DC) Gazette, 24 Feb 1819, p.3, col.3 (
newspapers.com)
https://www.newspapers.com/image/1043753967/?match=1&terms=%22school%22%20%22drops%20out%22&pqsid=LRJQgbga-YRmimrJQnnVsA%3A580645%3A1321574844

[begin quote]
While the latter would relax them so much that any State might drop out of
the Union at its own will and pleasure.
[end quote]
The Globe (Washington, DC), 16 June 1832, p.3, col.2 (newspapers.com)
https://www.newspapers.com/image/1040913752/?match=1&terms=%22school%22%20%22drops%20out%22

[begin quote]
The whole body of Whigs applauded this infamous declaration...and were
content to drop out of sight as a party themselves, and following shouting
in the train of ragamuffins they were at one time bent on sending to the
galleys.
[end quote]
Berrow's Worcester Journal (Worcester, England), 13 April 1843, p.1, col.1
https://www.newspapers.com/image/401227387/?match=1&terms=%22drops%20out%22

[begin quote]
The excessive number of Virginia troops who were permitted to drop out of
the ranks and return to their homes, shows very well that there was no firm
purpose to carry the war out of the limits of that State.
[end quote]
"A Bit of War History --- Lee's Surrender Premeditated", The Knoxville
Whig, 3 Jan 1866, p.3, col.2 (newspapers.com)
https://www.newspapers.com/image/76160431/?match=1&terms=%22school%22%20%22drops%20out%22

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Date:    Mon, 30 Sep 2024 16:32:00 -0400
From:    Steven Losie <stevenlosie at GMAIL.COM<mailto:stevenlosie at GMAIL.COM>>
Subject: Antedating of "dropout" n.

Dropout (n.2) (OED3, 1930)

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Whoever you are, whether your purse is fat or flat, whether you work day or
night, six hours a day or sixteen, whether college graduate or grammar
school drop-out:

The opportunity to acquire a good, thorough, practical business education
is hereby brought within your easy grasp.
[end quote]
[Advertisement], Spokane Daily Chronicle, 5 Sep 1919, p.25, col.3 (
newspapers.com)
https://www.newspapers.com/image/562247878/?match=1&terms=%22school%20dropout%22

[begin quote]
An effort was made to trace all high school drop-outs over a period of
years to discover what kind of further schooling, if any, they had secured,
and what kind of occupations engage them at present.
[end quote]
"Summarize Lawrence School Needs In Report of Recent School Survey",
Lawrence (Kansas) Daily Journal-World, 5 Jan 1921, p.2, col.4 (
newspapers.com)
https://www.newspapers.com/image/59413348/?match=1&terms=%22school%20dropouts%22

[begin quote]
If there is anything more discouraging to those who are interested in the
school progress of a community than non-attendance by all those of school
age, it is the mid-term and late-term "drop-outs".
[end quote]
The Pupil and the "Drop-Out" Germ, Kentwood (Louisiana) Commercial, 2 Sep
1926, p.2, col.1 (newspapers.com)
https://www.newspapers.com/image/851206886/?match=1&terms=dropouts

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Date:    Mon, 30 Sep 2024 14:04:51 -0700
From:    Stanton McCandlish <smccandlish at GMAIL.COM<mailto:smccandlish at GMAIL.COM>>
Subject: Re: Antedating of "drop out" v.

The first of these (24 Feb 1819) seems like it could be something else, a
"drop away", "shake out", "be left out or removed" kind of sense, but
probably more of the original context is needed.

On Mon, Sep 30, 2024 at 1:31 PM Steven Losie <stevenlosie at gmail.com<mailto:stevenlosie at gmail.com>> wrote:

To drop out (v.2, OED3, 1883)

The OED provides the definition: "To withdraw or disappear from one's (or
its) place in a series, group, etc.; to disappear from public notice; spec.
to ‘opt out’ from society."

[begin quote]
Our country — If her _measures_ are _justified_ by strict policy, the
_section_ that _drops out_ should be ejected from the _fount_.
[end quote]
"Washington's Birthday", Washington (DC) Gazette, 24 Feb 1819, p.3, col.3 (
newspapers.com)

https://www.newspapers.com/image/1043753967/?match=1&terms=%22school%22%20%22drops%20out%22&pqsid=LRJQgbga-YRmimrJQnnVsA%3A580645%3A1321574844

[begin quote]
While the latter would relax them so much that any State might drop out of
the Union at its own will and pleasure.
[end quote]
The Globe (Washington, DC), 16 June 1832, p.3, col.2 (newspapers.com)

https://www.newspapers.com/image/1040913752/?match=1&terms=%22school%22%20%22drops%20out%22

[begin quote]
The whole body of Whigs applauded this infamous declaration...and were
content to drop out of sight as a party themselves, and following shouting
in the train of ragamuffins they were at one time bent on sending to the
galleys.
[end quote]
Berrow's Worcester Journal (Worcester, England), 13 April 1843, p.1, col.1
https://www.newspapers.com/image/401227387/?match=1&terms=%22drops%20out%22

[begin quote]
The excessive number of Virginia troops who were permitted to drop out of
the ranks and return to their homes, shows very well that there was no firm
purpose to carry the war out of the limits of that State.
[end quote]
"A Bit of War History --- Lee's Surrender Premeditated", The Knoxville
Whig, 3 Jan 1866, p.3, col.2 (newspapers.com)

https://www.newspapers.com/image/76160431/?match=1&terms=%22school%22%20%22drops%20out%22

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