[Ads-l] Antedating of "Dude" (OED Sense 2)

Laurence Horn laurence.horn at YALE.EDU
Sun Apr 20 23:59:42 UTC 2025


Well, it could be a fixed Homeric-style epithet, like “rosy-fingered dawn” or “wine-dark sea", which don’t imply the existence of dawns and wines of non-rosy-fingered and non-wine-dark varieties. 

> On Apr 20, 2025, at 7:35 PM, Peter Reitan <pjreitan at HOTMAIL.COM> wrote:
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> It seems to me, that if dude is qualified with "Eastern," then the word itself does not connote easternness, and therefor does not qualify as an example of a sense of dude meaning someone from the East.
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> dude (OED, 2., 1884)
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> 1883 Bismarck (N.D.) 11 May 2/6 (Newspapers.com)
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> Bismarck has at last been honored with the presence within her gates of a g=
> enuine Eastern "dude."
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> Fred Shapiro
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