[Ads-l] Antedating of "For Shizzle"

[ADSGarson O'Toole]

I use the following clumsy delimiters because of a misunderstanding
many years ago.
[Begin excerpt]
[End excerpt]

On Sun, Feb 2, 2025 at 8:53 AM Shapiro, Fred <fred.shapiro at yale.edu> wrote:
>
> Kelly,
>
> I think you're misunderstanding my posting.  I'm not the one who is listening to rap C.D.'s and characterizing those terms as slang, it's some person in 2001.
>
> Fred Shapiro
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: American Dialect Society <ADS-L at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU> on behalf of Kelly Wright <wrightlinguistics at GMAIL.COM>
> Sent: Sunday, February 2, 2025 7:29 AM
> To: ADS-L at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU <ADS-L at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
> Subject: Re: Antedating of "For Shizzle"
>
> Fred,
>
>
> Just want to reinforce that this isn't "slang" you're listening to, but a
> full fledged variety all its own: African American Language.
>
>
> Thanks,
> K.
>
> On Sat, Feb 1, 2025 at 6:39 AM Shapiro, Fred <fred.shapiro at yale.edu> wrote:
>
> > for shizzle (OED 2001 Aug. 16)
> >
> > 2001 Daily Progress (Charlottesville, Va.) 20 July International Magazine
> > 2/3 (Newspapers.com)
> >
> > I can't understand the slang on these rap C.D.'s !  Baller, Crib, Biscuit,
> > Zig-Zags, Fo' Shizzle, Bling-Bling "
> >
> > Fred Shapiro
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------------------------------
> > The American Dialect Society - https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.americandialect.org%2F&data=05%7C02%7Cfred.shapiro%40YALE.EDU%7Ca01a9a1ac8e64b1d649b08dd438550ad%7Cdd8cbebb21394df8b4114e3e87abeb5c%7C0%7C0%7C638740962058987909%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJFbXB0eU1hcGkiOnRydWUsIlYiOiIwLjAuMDAwMCIsIlAiOiJXaW4zMiIsIkFOIjoiTWFpbCIsIldUIjoyfQ%3D%3D%7C0%7C%7C%7C&sdata=rZKpBNG4AiYOwgMYO9KHjXTDcFdt1IVeMqtIEh4wBd8%3D&reserved=0<http://www.americandialect.org/>
> >
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------
> The American Dialect Society - https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.americandialect.org%2F&data=05%7C02%7Cfred.shapiro%40YALE.EDU%7Ca01a9a1ac8e64b1d649b08dd438550ad%7Cdd8cbebb21394df8b4114e3e87abeb5c%7C0%7C0%7C638740962059007901%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJFbXB0eU1hcGkiOnRydWUsIlYiOiIwLjAuMDAwMCIsIlAiOiJXaW4zMiIsIkFOIjoiTWFpbCIsIldUIjoyfQ%3D%3D%7C0%7C%7C%7C&sdata=pH0hHHpE5FtXwLfYcOP46xx7MdvIBt%2BWjp9EAkAq%2B%2F4%3D&reserved=0<http://www.americandialect.org/>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------
> The American Dialect Society - http://www.americandialect.org

------------------------------------------------------------
The American Dialect Society - http://www.americandialect.org