[Ads-l] Antedating of "Bop" (Music)
Ben Zimmer
bgzimmer at GMAIL.COM
Fri Feb 28 15:41:30 UTC 2025
Fred has already pushed "be-bop" back to Apr. 1945, a year before the "bop"
shortening is attested in Garson's cite.
1945 _Daily News_ (Los Angeles) 17 Apr. 23/1 (Newspapers.com) NORMAN GRANZ
JAZZ CONCERT ... First Be-bop at 8:30PM.
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On Fri, Feb 28, 2025 at 9:37 AM Rich Lowenthal <
000018596069864c-dmarc-request at listserv.uga.edu> wrote:
> The Los Angeles Tribune of March 9, 1946, page 20, has an advertisement
> for the Orpheum, with Benny Carter & His Orchestra: 'Everything from
> "Mellow" to "Be-Bop" Music.'
>
> (America's Historical Newspapers database)
>
>
> ------ Original Message ------
> From "ADSGarson O'Toole" <adsgarsonotoole at GMAIL.COM>
> To ADS-L at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
> Date 2/28/2025 07:03:15
> Subject Re: Antedating of "Bop" (Music)
>
> >Excellent work, Fred and Peter. Here is a match in April 1946. The
> >writer may be uncertain about how to identify "bop" music.
> >Nevertheless, the citation indicates that the term "bop" was in
> >circulation.
> >
> >Date: April 12, 1946
> >Newspaper: The Nashville Banner
> >Newspaper Location: Nashville, Tennessee
> >Article: Let The Record Speak: A Review of Current Recordings
> >Author: James Palmer Wade
> >Quote Page 30, Column 3
> >Database: Newspapers.com
> >
> >https://www.newspapers.com/article/nashville-banner-bop/166872140/
> >
> >[Begin excerpt]
> >I've got no closer to the new sort of music called "Bop" than Lionel
> >Hampton's cutting for Decca, unless I am allowed to count some of the
> >numberless recordings of Cab Calloway, who has surely sung the word
> >"Bop" at least a time or two.
> >[End excerpt]
> >
> >Garson
> >
> >On Thu, Feb 27, 2025 at 2:27 PM mr_peter_morris at outlook.com
> ><mr_peter_morris at outlook.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> The Billboard, March 22 1947
> >>
> https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=fEUEAAAAMBAJ&pg=PT76&dq=jazz+bop&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwi6g_TWx-SLAxXfXEEAHS1iMxA4ChC7BXoECA8QBw#v=onepage&q=jazz%20bop&f=false
> >>
> >> Trumpet Man, name band experience, well schooled. Bop, jazz, and split
> >> lead ....
> >>
> >> =========================
> >>
> >> The Billboard, 2 August 1947
> >>
> https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=xgwEAAAAMBAJ&pg=PT39&dq=jazz+bop&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiQnZflw-SLAxUgU0EAHQ8TE-UQ6AF6BAgIEAM#v=onepage&q=jazz%20bop&f=false
> >>
> >> "both smacking very much of the bop"
> >> "one of the key bop boosters"
>
>
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