[Ads-l] IDGAF--with quantities
Jonathan Lighter
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Tue Nov 18 12:19:53 UTC 2025
"I don't give two fucks" (or "shits" - but not "damns" or "goddamns" in my
experience) has been around since ca1970 or earlier.
Two being less than one.
JL
On Tue, Nov 18, 2025 at 7:02 AM Geoffrey Nathan <
00001a558db4a26e-dmarc-request at listserv.uga.edu> wrote:
> Somewhat of a tangent,
> but this discussion made
> me wonder about when 'fuck'
> became not only a
> count noun but one that was
> actually counted. So I
> asked Google nGram
> about 'zero fucks to give'
> and found a citation from
> 2017. Not the best
> research tool, but
> probably suggestive.
>
> (Apologies for the weird formatting
> but if I don't keep lines shortened
> the listserv machine screws with
> Them)
>
> Geoff
>
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> You can find earlier examples in Jesse Sheidlower's _The F-Word_ (4th ed.,
> 2024):
>
> 1969 The Hatchet (George Washington University) (Mar. 20) 11/1: Mural
> Softball Weekend Scores=E2=80=A6. IDGAF 8 -- Teddy=E2=80=99s Team 3.
> 1982 The Manet (North Quincy (MA) High School yearbook) 78: IDGAF, let the
> Good Times Roll, "No Way Jose," "Whatever."
> 1993 RELEASE: Recent and Upcoming Album Releases: 93:41 in rec.music.misc
> (Usenet newsgroup) (Oct. 15): 2 Nov Lyrical Prophets I.D.G.A.F.
> 1997 Re: creative acronyms in alt.tasteless.jokes (Usenet newsgroup) (May
> 28): IDGAF I Don=E2=80=99t Give A Fuck.
> [etc.]
>
> --bgz
>
> On Sat, Nov 15, 2025 at 3:14=E2=80=AFPM Dennis During <
> 00001bcaf94bd005-dmarc-request at listserv.uga.edu> wrote:
>
> > in Wiktionary since 11/2/2011, with a single citation from 1993.
> >
> > On Sat, Nov 15, 2025 at 7:56=E2=80=AFAM Jonathan Lighter <
> > 00001aad181a2549-dmarc-request at listserv.uga.edu> wrote:
> >
> > > Md. Gov. Wes Moore on _The Weekend_ (MSNOW TV): I have five letter for
> > the
> > > _Washington Post_ [after an unfavorable comment]: I. D. G. A. F.
> > >
> > > JL
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