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https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/articles/18-history-lessons-teacher-lied-122454746.html
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Readers Digest    18 History Lessons Your Teacher Lied to You About

 The news is fake too.

JL

On Tue, Jul 14, 2026 at 7:30 AM Jonathan Lighter <wuxxmupp2000 at gmail.com>
wrote:

> "An error, misinterpretation, etc."
>
>
> https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/articles/10-famous-lies-changed-world-124949212.html
> :
>
> "In 1989, scientists announced they had achieved cold fusion, a
> breakthrough that promised unlimited, cheap energy. Unfortunately, it was a
> lie. The experiment was a failure, and the scientific community quickly
> debunked the claims."
>
> When anything untrue can be called a "lie," people are never just
> mistaken, they're trying to hoodwink you.
>
> JL
>
>
>
> On Mon, Jun 1, 2026 at 9:13 AM Jonathan Lighter <wuxxmupp2000 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> This guy says "You've been lied to about sword-fighting."
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BJzEfF4Ab7k
>>
>> 'Unintentionally misled.'
>>
>> A real sword fight only took a few seconds.
>>
>> JL
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sat, May 10, 2025 at 11:47 AM Jonathan Lighter <wuxxmupp2000 at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Youtube show about Latin:
>>>
>>> "The lie is that there were two languages: Classical Lantin and Vulgar
>>> Latin."
>>>
>>> Popular misconception.
>>>
>>> JL
>>>
>>> On Fri, Mar 7, 2025 at 7:59 PM Jonathan Lighter <wuxxmupp2000 at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> A physics doc on YouTube informs us that the idea that a proton
>>>> consists of three quarks " is another lie they told you" in school.
>>>>
>>>> A misconception or simplification.
>>>> JL
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, Jun 8, 2024 at 9:18 PM Jonathan Lighter <wuxxmupp2000 at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I read the book long ago. Yes, he meant the textbook authors were the
>>>>> "liars," because they simplified or glossed over various facts - primarily
>>>>> in books for teenagers.
>>>>>
>>>>> I suppose "lies" is catchier than "simplifications and omissions," but
>>>>> it certainly implies cynical deception.
>>>>>
>>>>> JL
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, Jun 8, 2024 at 8:58 PM Baker, John <
>>>>> 000014a9c79c3f97-dmarc-request at listserv.uga.edu> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> The book Lies My Teacher Told Me: Everything Your American History
>>>>>> Textbook Got Wrong, by James W. Loewen (1995), may be responsible for the
>>>>>> popularization of this usage.  I have not read the book, but if I
>>>>>> understand Loewen’s point, his argument actually was that the lies were
>>>>>> those of the textbook authors (i.e., teachers were not necessarily lying).
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> John Baker
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> From: American Dialect Society <ADS-L at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU> On Behalf Of
>>>>>> Jonathan Lighter
>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, June 8, 2024 8:42 PM
>>>>>> To: ADS-L at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
>>>>>> Subject: Re: lie
>>>>>>
>>>>>> External Email - Think Before You Click
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Easy Latin Lessons" on YouTube, Lesson 38:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Today's story contains a lie that you might have been taught in
>>>>>> elementary
>>>>>> school....And maybe the lie will help you remember the new words
>>>>>> better."
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The so-called "lie" is the erroneous belief that educated people in
>>>>>> 1492
>>>>>> thought the earth was flat.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> JL
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Jun 5, 2024 at 7:28 AM Jonathan Lighter <
>>>>>> wuxxmupp2000 at gmail.com<mailto:wuxxmupp2000 at gmail.com>>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> > "Thing You Were Lied to About Dinosaurs"
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Things You Were Lied to About Dinosaurs | Watch (msn.com)
>>>>>> > <
>>>>>> https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/technology/things-you-were-lied-to-about-dinosaurs/vi-BB1lncBZ?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=ACTS&cvid=70b8d7bef09142f58a0cd0a74953d779&ei=11
>>>>>> <
>>>>>> https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/technology/things-you-were-lied-to-about-dinosaurs/vi-BB1lncBZ?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=ACTS&cvid=70b8d7bef09142f58a0cd0a74953d779&ei=11
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > In this case the "lies" are "myths and misconceptions", e.g.
>>>>>> "dinosaurs
>>>>>> > were green, scary monsters." (Great CGI, though.)
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > JL
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > On Tue, May 10, 2022 at 8:31 AM Jonathan Lighter <
>>>>>> wuxxmupp2000 at gmail.com<mailto:wuxxmupp2000 at gmail.com>>
>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> https://news.yahoo.com/seismic-shift-fractures-evangelicals-arkansas-185525279.html
>>>>>> <
>>>>>> https://news.yahoo.com/seismic-shift-fractures-evangelicals-arkansas-185525279.html
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >> :
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> “This mindset that Christianity and politics, and the preacher and
>>>>>> >> politics, need to be separate, that’s a lie,” he said.
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> JL
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> On Mon, Nov 15, 2021 at 8:30 PM Jonathan Lighter <
>>>>>> wuxxmupp2000 at gmail.com<mailto:wuxxmupp2000 at gmail.com>>
>>>>>> >> wrote:
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> https://www.yahoo.com/news/22-things-were-taught-school-064603650.html
>>>>>> <
>>>>>> https://www.yahoo.com/news/22-things-were-taught-school-064603650.html
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>> "ROY G BIV Is A Lie, And 21 Other Fake 'Facts' Our Teachers
>>>>>> Taught Us
>>>>>> >>> As Kids"
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>> JL
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>> On Sat, Oct 16, 2021 at 4:20 PM Jonathan Lighter <
>>>>>> wuxxmupp2000 at gmail.com<mailto:wuxxmupp2000 at gmail.com>>
>>>>>> >>> wrote:
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>>> Cf.:
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> https://www.yahoo.com/news/horses-cnn-contributor-slams-networks-161600893.html
>>>>>> <
>>>>>> https://www.yahoo.com/news/horses-cnn-contributor-slams-networks-161600893.html
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >>>> <
>>>>>> https://www.yahoo.com/news/horses-cnn-contributor-slams-networks-161600893.html
>>>>>> <
>>>>>> https://www.yahoo.com/news/horses-cnn-contributor-slams-networks-161600893.html
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>> "would you say that when you’re talking about a drug that has
>>>>>> been
>>>>>> >>>> given out to billions and billions of people?” Rogan asked
>>>>>> Gupta. “A drug
>>>>>> >>>> that the inventors won a Nobel Prize in 2015, a drug that has
>>>>>> been shown to
>>>>>> >>>> stop viral replication in vitro. You know that, right? Why would
>>>>>> they lie
>>>>>> >>>> and say that’s horse dewormer? [...] Do you think that that's a
>>>>>> problem
>>>>>> >>>> that your news network lies?"
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>> Ivermectin, the drug at issue, *is* a horse dewormer. The
>>>>>> terminology
>>>>>> >>>> was complicated by the fact that it's also prescribed for
>>>>>> parasitic river
>>>>>> >>>> blindness in humans. Rogan got a prescription for it (he doesn't
>>>>>> have river
>>>>>> >>>> blindness).
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>> Said in passing by Don Lemon, the characterization "horse
>>>>>> dewormer"
>>>>>> >>>> would more accurately be called a "misnomer" or even a
>>>>>> "tendentious choice
>>>>>> >>>> of words."
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>> But nowadays it's a "lie."
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>> JL
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>> On Thu, Sep 23, 2021 at 3:39 PM Mark Mandel <
>>>>>> markamandel at gmail.com<mailto:markamandel at gmail.com>>
>>>>>> >>>> wrote:
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>>> They lie flat, as opposed to flat-out lying
>>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>> MAM. .
>>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>> On Thu, Sep 23, 2021, 1:03 PM Jonathan Lighter <
>>>>>> wuxxmupp2000 at gmail.com
>>>>>> <mailto:wuxxmupp2000 at gmail.com%0b>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>> > So you can't trust the inconstant moon either.
>>>>>> >>>>> >
>>>>>> >>>>> > I trust the flat-earthers. They have no reason to lie.
>>>>>> >>>>> >
>>>>>> >>>>> > JL
>>>>>> >>>>> >
>>>>>> >>>>> > On Thu, Sep 23, 2021 at 12:25 PM Mark Mandel <
>>>>>> markamandel at gmail.com<mailto:markamandel at gmail.com>>
>>>>>> >>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>> >>>>> >
>>>>>> >>>>> > > Well, the Moon always lies *in the northern hemisphere*. In
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> >>>>> Tropics
>>>>>> >>>>> > her
>>>>>> >>>>> > > path takes her through or near the zenith on her monthly
>>>>>> apparent
>>>>>> >>>>> journey
>>>>>> >>>>> > > from east to west and the edge of the shadow is roughly
>>>>>> parallel
>>>>>> >>>>> to that
>>>>>> >>>>> > > line, so it depends on which way you're facing. And in the
>>>>>> southern
>>>>>> >>>>> > > hemisphere she tells the truth.
>>>>>> >>>>> > >
>>>>>> >>>>> > > Mark A. Mandel
>>>>>> >>>>> > >
>>>>>> >>>>> > >
>>>>>> >>>>> > > On Wed, Sep 22, 2021, 4:38 PM Laurence Horn <
>>>>>> >>>>> laurence.horn at yale.edu<mailto:laurence.horn at yale.edu>>
>>>>>> >>>>> > > wrote:
>>>>>> >>>>> > >
>>>>>> >>>>> > > > > On Sep 22, 2021, at 4:03 PM, Jonathan Lighter <
>>>>>> >>>>> > wuxxmupp2000 at GMAIL.COM<mailto:wuxxmupp2000 at GMAIL.COM>>
>>>>>> >>>>> > > > wrote:
>>>>>> >>>>> > > > >
>>>>>> >>>>> > > > >
>>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>> https://www.yahoo.com/news/thought-knew-sun-color-lie-133422094.html<
>>>>>> https://www.yahoo.com/news/thought-knew-sun-color-lie-133422094.html>
>>>>>> >>>>> > :
>>>>>> >>>>> > > > >
>>>>>> >>>>> > > > > What You Thought You Knew About the Sun’s Color Is a Lie
>>>>>> >>>>> > > > >
>>>>>> >>>>> > > > > (People say it's yellow, but it's really white. Liars!)
>>>>>> >>>>> > > > >
>>>>>> >>>>> > > > > JL
>>>>>> >>>>> > > >
>>>>>> >>>>> > > > I don’t know—from the write-up it looks like it’s the sun
>>>>>> that's
>>>>>> >>>>> the
>>>>>> >>>>> > > > liar. I was told the moon always lies (it makes a capital
>>>>>> D
>>>>>> >>>>> when it’s
>>>>>> >>>>> > > > crescent and a C when it’s decrescent), but apparently
>>>>>> you can’t
>>>>>> >>>>> trust
>>>>>> >>>>> > > any
>>>>>> >>>>> > > > heavenly bodies. Or even Springsteen:
>>>>>> >>>>> > > >
>>>>>> >>>>> > > > The piss-yellow sun
>>>>>> >>>>> > > > Comes bringing up the day
>>>>>> >>>>> > > > She said "Ain't nobody can give nobody
>>>>>> >>>>> > > > What they really need anyway”
>>>>>> >>>>> > > > (“Dry Lightning”)
>>>>>> >>>>> > > >
>>>>>> >>>>> > > > Is nothing sacred?
>>>>>> >>>>> > > >
>>>>>> >>>>> > > > LH
>>>>>> >>>>> > > >
>>>>>> >>>>> > > >
>>>>>> >>>>> > > > >
>>>>>> >>>>> > > > > On Fri, Aug 13, 2021 at 10:19 AM Dan Goncharoff <
>>>>>> >>>>> thegonch at gmail.com<mailto:thegonch at gmail.com>>
>>>>>> >>>>> > > > wrote:
>>>>>> >>>>> > > > >
>>>>>> >>>>> > > > >> Interesting how one deals with opinions expressed as
>>>>>> facts,
>>>>>> >>>>> > especially
>>>>>> >>>>> > > > when
>>>>>> >>>>> > > > >> they are found to be wrong later. Are they Schrodinger
>>>>>> >>>>> statements,
>>>>>> >>>>> > > only
>>>>>> >>>>> > > > >> found to be true or false once we "open the box"?
>>>>>> >>>>> > > > >>
>>>>>> >>>>> > > > >> On Fri, Aug 13, 2021, 10:05 AM Jonathan Lighter <
>>>>>> >>>>> > > wuxxmupp2000 at gmail.com<mailto:wuxxmupp2000 at gmail.com>
>>>>>> >>>>> > > > >
>>>>>> >>>>> > > > >> wrote:
>>>>>> >>>>> > > > >>
>>>>>> >>>>> > > > >>> 'any idea or statement that is untrue or that one
>>>>>> disagrees
>>>>>> >>>>> with.'
>>>>>> >>>>> > > > >>>
>>>>>> >>>>> > > > >>> I've been hearing this a lot on cable news, though
>>>>>> not from
>>>>>> >>>>> > > > journalists.
>>>>>> >>>>> > > > >>> Ex.:
>>>>>> >>>>> > > > >>>
>>>>>> >>>>> > > > >>> Quora.com: "Electrons absolutely positively do not
>>>>>> whizz
>>>>>> >>>>> around
>>>>>> >>>>> > the
>>>>>> >>>>> > > > >>> nucleus of an atom. That idea is a lie-to-children, a
>>>>>> >>>>> > simplification
>>>>>> >>>>> > > > told
>>>>>> >>>>> > > > >>> [to] young kids in grade school."
>>>>>> >>>>> > > > >>>
>>>>>> >>>>> > > > >>> CNN: "Rugged individualism is a lie."
>>>>>> >>>>> > > > >>>
>>>>>> >>>>> > > > >>> Also v.:
>>>>>> >>>>> > > > >>>
>>>>>> >>>>> > > > >>> Protest sign seen on FOX News: "FAUCI LIED PEOPLE
>>>>>> DIED"
>>>>>> >>>>> > > > >>>
>>>>>> >>>>> > > > >>> JL
>>>>>> >>>>> > > > >>>
>>>>>> >>>>> > > > >>> --
>>>>>> >>>>> > > > >>> "If the truth is half as bad as I think it is, you
>>>>>> can't
>>>>>> >>>>> handle the
>>>>>> >>>>> > > > >> truth."
>>>>>> >>>>> > > > >>>
>>>>>> >>>>> > > > >>>
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>>>>>> >>>>> > > > >
>>>>>> >>>>> > > > >
>>>>>> >>>>> > > > > --
>>>>>> >>>>> > > > > "If the truth is half as bad as I think it is, you can't
>>>>>> >>>>> handle the
>>>>>> >>>>> > > > truth."
>>>>>> >>>>> > > > >
>>>>>> >>>>> > > > >
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>>>>>> >>>>> > --
>>>>>> >>>>> > "If the truth is half as bad as I think it is, you can't
>>>>>> handle the
>>>>>> >>>>> truth."
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>>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>> --
>>>>>> >>>> "If the truth is half as bad as I think it is, you can't handle
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> >>>> truth."
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>> --
>>>>>> >>> "If the truth is half as bad as I think it is, you can't handle
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> >>> truth."
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> --
>>>>>> >> "If the truth is half as bad as I think it is, you can't handle the
>>>>>> >> truth."
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > --
>>>>>> > "If the truth is half as bad as I think it is, you can't handle the
>>>>>> truth."
>>>>>> >
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> "If the truth is half as bad as I think it is, you can't handle the
>>>>>> truth."
>>>>>>
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>>>>>> http://www.americandialect.org>
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>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> "If the truth is half as bad as I think it is, you can't handle the
>>>>> truth."
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> "If the truth is half as bad as I think it is, you can't handle the
>>>> truth."
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> "If the truth is half as bad as I think it is, you can't handle the
>>> truth."
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> "If the truth is half as bad as I think it is, you can't handle the
>> truth."
>>
>
>
> --
> "If the truth is half as bad as I think it is, you can't handle the truth."
>

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