[Ads-l] Antedating of "Copacetic"
Jonathan Lighter
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Tue Jul 21 01:38:55 UTC 2026
Also "kopasetty," "copasetty," "kopasettee." Newspapers.com:
1921 _Elmira Star-Gazette- (Aug. 16) 9: Boy, yo' ain't settin' very
kopasetty out there.
1945 _Times-Herald_ (Washington, D.C.) (Aug. 22) 13: Bill
Robinson...Everything's copasetty.
1963 _Sheboygan Press_ (Oct. 2) 34: Things turned out "kopasetty" fpr North.
1989 _Gazette_ (Montreal) (Nov. 11) K-10: Kopasettee, man! Hey, really!!
On Mon, Jul 20, 2026 at 9:19 PM Shapiro, Fred
<00001ac016895344-dmarc-request at listserv.uga.edu> wrote:
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> My guess is that the 1893 cite is a homonym meaning something like "sympathetic," and that the other citations have the meaning of "conducive of everything feeling perfect." And I think that there is an African-American thread starting with the Chicago Defender and going through the 1920s and the Bill Robinson era.
>
> Fred Shapiro
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> Doug Wilson noted the "copathetic" variant here back in 2005, providing a
> slightly later 1919 cite:
>
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> There's also this much earlier cite for that spelling, though based on
> context the meaning seems to align more with "sympathetic":
>
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> Buffalo Evening News, Mar. 7, 1893, p. 1, col. 8
> The mild yet clear and distinct tones of the speaker given in her own
> simple copathetic style touched every hearer interested in the mission work
> among children.
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>
> --bgz
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>
> On Mon, Jul 20, 2026 at 7:58 PM Laurence Horn <
> 00001c05436ff7cf-dmarc-request at listserv.uga.edu> wrote:
>
> > The "copathetic" variant and, less clearly, that of "copesthetic" suggest
> > influence from "sympathetic". (And now I'm wondering why my spell-check
> > flags the first of these and not the second.) Google's Al tells us
> > "Popular theories suggest it evolved from Yiddish (*kol b'seder*),
> > Louisiana French (*coupe-sétique*), or was simply coined by entertainer
> > Bill "Bojangles" Robinson."
> >
> > LH
> >
> > On Mon, Jul 20, 2026 at 7:19 PM Shapiro, Fred <
> > 00001ac016895344-dmarc-request at listserv.uga.edu> wrote:
> >
> > > The Oxford English Dictionary's earliest citation for the word
> > "copacetic"
> > > or "copasetic" is from Irving Bacheller's 1919 novel A Man for the Ages.
> > > The Bacheller book has proven to be very difficult to antedate.
> > >
> > > Now the lexicography and research team of the forthcoming Oxford
> > > Dictionary of African American English has uncovered prior use of this
> > word
> > > (in a spelling variant):
> > >
> > > 1918 Urbana (Illinois) Daily Courier 10 July 4/7 (Newspapers.com)
> > Reports
> > > Crops Favorable. R. C. Lindsey made a trip to his farm west of Pesotum
> > > last night and reports everything as being "copesthetic." Ceph made the
> > > trip in his new flivver and claims it to be a fast little scamp.
> > >
> > > I have found another antedating, also a spelling variant, as well:
> > >
> > > 1919 Chicago Defender 26 Apr. 9/1 (Newspapers.com) Jimmy Nelson and Ben
> > > Harris put on a Virginia ham supper at their cafe last Friday night,
> > > without beans, and every one went home feeling copathetic, whatever that
> > > means.
> > >
> > > I regard this as an antedating of the OED's 1919 cite because the first
> > > mention of the serialization of A Man for the Ages in the papers covered
> > by
> > > Newspapers.com was on June 25, 1919.
> > >
> > > It seems that "copacetic" in one of its spellings may have been coined in
> > > Illinois. I also wonder whether the word, which was later popularized by
> > > the famous Black entertainer Bill "Bojangles" Robinson, might have
> > > originated in the African-American community. My primary basis for such
> > > speculation is the early occurrence in the Chicago Defender Black
> > newspaper.
> > >
> > > Fred Shapiro
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