[An-lang] papa

[Pila Wilson]

Traditionally, Hawaiians called their parents by their first names and
only had special term names for siblings.   Mämä and Päpä were adopted
from English as such terms and spread slowly among Hawaiians into the 20th
century.

wahi a John Lynch <lynch_j at vanuatu.usp.ac.fj>:
>Given that papa is used for father in a huge number of languages around
>the world - just as mama is for mother - isn't it far more likely that we
>are not dealing with a word of Polynesian origin but basically some human
>baby talk phenomenon ... since p/b, m, d (dada) and a are usually among
>the very first sounds acquired?
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Pila Wilson [[ mailto:pila_w at leoki.uhh.hawaii.edu
>]mailto:pila_w at leoki.uhh.hawaii.edu]
>Sent: Tuesday, 21 October 2003 2:04 p.m.
>To: David Gunn
>Cc: "[ mailto:dagunn ]mailto:dagunn"@uophx.edu; An-lang at anu.edu.au
>Subject: Re: [An-lang] papa
>
>In Hawaiian, papa has to do with flatness and in Hawaiian geneologies is
>the name of the woman who gave birth to many of the Hawaiian islands.
>Papa with two long "a"s is from English and is a term for Dad, but not
>the
>word for father.
>
>wahi a "David Gunn" <dagunn at email.uophx.edu>:
>>Hello - I'm interested in the word "papa".  I read recently that this
>>word means "father" in Maori and Moriori.  I know "papa" means rock or a
>>board in some Polynesian languages. I just want to know how far the word
>>"papa" is used throughout Polynesia in the sense of "father" or having
>>something to do with geneology.  I also want to know if the word is
>>definitley of Polynesian origin as opposed to being a European loan
>word.
>>
>>If you'd like to answer straight to my email, you can reply to [
>>[ mailto:dagunn at uophx.edu ]mailto:dagunn at uophx.edu ][
>mailto:dagunn at uophx.edu ]mailto:dagunn at uophx.edu
>>
>>Thanks!
>>
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