Arabic-L:LING:Discordant Nisba Query

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Date: 23 Feb 2000
From: dwilmsen <dwilmsen at aucegypt.edu>
Subject: Discordant Nisba Query

Hello

I am winding up a study of a type of “discordant” agreement that appears in
Cairene Arabic in which some adjectives are not inflected for gender.

Mitchell cites these, as does Spitta, both mentioning nisba adjectives having
to do with the material compostition or ethnic/national origin of things.

Think, for instance, of /‘ahwa turki/ (where /’ahwa turkiyya/ might be
expected).

Sallam has also done a survey in which he asks speakers from various dialect
areas to assess the statement

Saabuuna naabulsi
Saabuuna naabulsiyya

I would like to ask if people on this list can give me an assessment of
whether things like /Saabuuna naabulsi/ or /‘ahwa turki/ occur in the Arabic
colloquials with which they are familiar?

While we are at it, if such things do occur, do they appear to be more common
in the utterance-final position?  Are there other examples of utterance-final
reductions?

Mitchell, T. F. 1976.  Colloquial Arabic.  Third Addition.  Kent:  Hodder and
Stotton.

Sallam, A.M. 1979. Concordial Relations within the noun phrase in Educated
Spoken Arabic, ESA. Archivum Linguisticum 10:20-56.

Spitta, Wilhelm.  1880.  Grammatik des arabischen Vulgardialektes von
Aegypten.  Leipzig:  J.C. Hinrichs.

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