Arabic-L:LING:Boktor

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1) Subject: Boktor
2) Subject: DLI Boktor
3) Subject: Boktor
4) Subject: Boktor

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Date: 10 Jul 2000
From: Muhammad Deeb <mdeeb at gpu.srv.ualberta.ca>
Subject: Boktor

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			(1)	> [...] "Boktor" means "Victor"

			(2)	> Victor could be a nickname
				> for Boqtor.
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	Strictly speaking, "BuqTur" neither means, nor functions as a
nickname for "Victor" (or vice-versa).  Further, it does not imply that a
person so named has an elevated status in society.  "BuqTur" is simply an
arabized or linguistically "corrupted" form of Victor.  Please, check "The
Christian Coptic Orthodox Church of Egypt," at:

		http:/www.coptic.church.com/history.html

	This interesting article deals with Christian monasticism and its
significant role in the formation of Coptic Church in Egypt.  Among the
"Desert Fathers," i.e., the saints who founded the monasteries, one reads:
"Another saint from the Theban Legion is Saint Victor, known among Copts
as "Boktor."

		M. Deeb

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2)
Date: 10 Jul 2000
From: johninmonterey at webtv.net (John Brown)
Subject: DLI Boktor

I think you were referring to Ismail Bolotok, as you said a gentleman of
Turkish origins but teaching Arabic at the Defense Language Institute,
Foreign Langage Center, located at Monterey, CA.

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3)
Date: 10 Jul 2000
From: Karin Ryding <RYDINGK at gunet.georgetown.edu>
Subject: Boktor

I have a feeling that "Boktor" (since several people say it is a version of
"Victor') derives from the fact the "Victor" written in Cyrillic script
looks like "buktur".  Just a thought.  Karin R.

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4)
Date: 10 Jul 2000
From: mustafa abd-elghafar mughazy <mughazy at students.uiuc.edu>
Subject: Boktor

One of the respondents mentioned the argument that the term Copts refers
to all Egyptians (Moslems and Christians). I would appreciate it if
someone please elaborate on this issue because I thought otherwise. Also,
before the Arab invasion of Egypt, Prophet Mohammed used the term "aqbaaT
misr", and I would not think there were Moslems in Egypt at that time.
Thank you
Mustafa

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