Arabic-L:GEN:more Ghouls

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Date: 29 Jan 2001
From: "Schub, Michael" <michael.schub at trincoll.edu>
Subject: ghoul

"Go figure:"  Mom and Dad ghoul-ish cannibals??!  Bruno Bettelheim already

did in his *The Uses of Enchantment--The Meaning and Importance of Fairy

Tales.*  NY  1975.

                                           Mike Schub

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Date: 29 Jan 2001
From: Waheed Samy <wasamy at umich.edu>
Subject: ghoul

Yes you are right Farouk.  I'd forgotten the exact phrasing of this
gem.  But did kids in Tanta really say luula?
Mohammed Eissa and I were discussing significance exhibited by the
politeness of the hero in saying sabaaH il-kheer to 'ummina l-ghuula.
It appears to be a ploy; one used to trick the ghuula, thereby
tempering her fierceness.  This is evocative of ***ghalab-uu-hum
b-il-'adab***.
I don't even remember 'abuuna l-ghuul.  I think that 'ummina was a
much more frightening figure.

(What did Florence Nightingale look like?)

Waheed

farouk mustafa <f-mustafa at uchicago.edu> wrote:

>Is nothing sacred anymore, Waheed and Galila?  Every little child,
>especially those who grew up in Tanta, knows that ummina el-ghuula and
>abuuna el-ghuul, for that matter, returnedd the greeting by saying: "luula
>salaamak saba' kalaamak,la kalt lahmak 'bl `idaamak".

>In a corner of that rather big room is a
>big cauldron with fire under it day and night, wiating for the hapless
>human kid whose bad luck or bad behavior (that element depends on each
>particular family's didactic bent)places them in the Ghuul's cluthches.

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