Arabic-L:LING:EL- Al- Variation more responses

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Date: 16 Oct  2003
From: dwilmsen <dwilmsen at aucegypt.edu>
Subject:EL- Al- Variation more response

The applications for visas to the United States require applicants to  
write
their names (and their
home addresses) in their native script.  Those geniuses at la Migra  
could
simply refer to that line
of the application and compare that with the name written on the  
passport.

I have already offered my services to the attorney in question to serve  
as an
expert.

My office has performed hundreds, maybe thousands, of translations for  
people
applying for visas.

If anyone is interested, I will post my reply to Maher Awad, although it
doesn't say anything that we
all don't already know.

David Wilmsen
Director, Arabic and Translation Studies
The American University in Cairo
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Date: 16 Oct  2003
From: GSalib at aol.com
Subject:EL- Al- Variation more response

Mr. Maher Awad:

Al and El are equivalent in transliteration as they both represent the  
one Arabic definite article in the Arabic language. 

They should be accepted as alternatives in transliteration because, in  
addition to dialectal differences, that syllable is not stressed.

Another example is the way some of us write the proper name "Mohammad,"  
and others write it "Muhammed."  Here also the first and last syllables  
are not stressed and can be transliterated either way, Mu or Mo/mad or  
med.  However the second syllable in Muhammad cannot accept variation  
because it is stressed.  In any dialect, it will still be written  
"ham," without variation.

Galila

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Date: 16 Oct  2003
From: "Schub, Michael" <Michael.Schub at trincoll.edu>
Subject: RE: Arabic-L:LING:El- Al- Variation responses

epenthetic.  the other is a typo.                 --ms

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