Arabic-L:GEN:Arabic wordprocessing query response

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Date: 14 Dec  2004
From: fredlag at noos.fr
Subject: Arabic wordprocessing query response

Basically, there are 3 types of arabic encodings : Windows Arabic (used  
in older PC, before windows 2000, and still widely used on the  
internet) ; Mac Arabic (used in system 7 to 9, obsolete, but of course  
used in NisusWriter) ; Unicode (used in both Macs and PCs since Windows  
2000 and Mac OS 10.2).

with a recent mac and a recent PC, sharing arabic files is very easy,  
although the formatting often suffers a little. But sharing Arabic  
files between older macs and PC is a little harder, although always  
possible.


There are many ways to make a nisus file, i.e. mac arabic encoded file  
readable for PC users, but most of them require that you use Mac OS  
10.2 and later.

1: if you are stuck with a system 9 mac, save your file as "export  
rtf", and tell the PC end to decode it as mac arabic if they've got the  
proper filters.

2 : if you have a system 10.2 or 10.3 mac, just copy/paste the contents  
of a nisus file into TextEdit and then save as .rtf, it will be  
readable by a PC, or paste it into Mellel and save as .doc file, or  
even paste it into Mail.

3: if the nisus text mixes Arabic and Roman script, and has footnotes,  
it is slightly more tricky :
- export as .rtf with nisus
- import into mellel, but set mellel's rtf filter as "mac arabic"  
instead of automatic detection, and you will probably have to work on  
the formatting anyway.
- then export again to .rtf

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Date: 14 Dec  2004
From: GnhBos at aol.com
Subject: Arabic wordprocessing query response

>  There are two utilities that are very powerful in the capability
>  to inserting Arabic text into non-Arabic applications and cross
>  format. One for PC, the other for Mac.
>
>  You may be able to find out more at:
>
>  www.arabicsoftware.net
>
>  Please, download Kalimat (Mac), or Al-Rassam Al Arabi (PC)
>  in order to try it. Please, find below process information about
>  both. Kalimat and Al-Rassam:
>
>  Kalimat: Importing Windows Text:
>  You can import any Arabic text edited and saved as Text Only
>  format in Windows environment applications, such as Notepad
>  or Microsoft Word, and any other applications that allow saving
>  as Text Only format. Use Import Windows Text option, then locate
>  the required file and select Open. The text of the selected file will
>  move to Kalimat
>
>  Importing Macintosh Text:
>
>  You can import any Arabic text edited and saved as Text Only
>  layout in Macintosh environment applications, such as Simple
>  Text or any other applications that allow saving as Text Only
>  layout. Use Import Macintosh Text option, then locate the required
>  file and select Open. The text of the selected file will move to  
> Kalimat
>  Window conserving the Arabic text as is
>
>  Al-Rassam Al Arabi: Importing Windows Text:
>
>  You can import Arabic text from Windows Arabic applications.
>  Following is how to save the text in the Windows applications:
>
>  •Under Windows 98 Arabic, in the text editor, save the text file
>  as text only (*.txt).
>  •Under Windows 2000 Arabic,in the text editor,save the text
>  file as encoded text. Use the following procedure:
>  [a ] From the "File"menu select "Save As".
>  [b] In the Save As Dialog box select "Encoded Text (*.txt)" from
>  the Save As popup menu.
>  [c ] Click "Save"to save the file.
>  [d] You will get a warning that styles,
>  pictures and other formatting options will not be saved. Click
>  "Yes"to continue.
>  [e] A file conversion dialog box will appear. Choose the "Other
>  Encoding"radio button. A list of encodings will be activated. Select
>  "Arabic (Windows)" encoding and click OK.
>
>  The text file is now ready to be imported in Al-Rassam Al-Arabi.Use
>  Import Windows Text option, then locate the required file and select
>  Open. The text will be imported to Al-Rassam Al-Arabi Window.
>
>  Importing Macintosh text:
>
>  You can import Arabic text from Macintosh Arabic applications.
>  Save your text in the Macintosh Arabic applications as Text Only.
>  Use Import Macintosh Text option, then locate the required file and
>  select Open. The text of the selected file will be imported to
>  Al-Rassam Al-Arabi Window. This option is not implemented
>  with the current release of Al-Rassam Al-Arabi
>
>  Give it a try and let me know...
>
>  Happy Thanksgiving,
>
>  George N. Hallak
>  AramediA Group  
>  761 Adams Street    
>  Boston, MA 02122, USA  

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