Arabic-L:LING:another Al-Imra'a exchange

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1) Subject:another Al-Imra'a exchange

[Mike and Nagwa had the following exchange, which they now post]

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Date: 09 Jan 2004
From:Michael.Schub at trincoll.edu
Subject:Al-Imra'a

According to all authoritave grammars and dictionaries "indefinite  
/mar'u[n]/"
is simply wrong.  The nominitive is  /mru'un/; the accusative /mra'an/;  
and the
genitive is  /mri'in/, all spelled with an alif waSla initially, and  
the three
  respective different "chairs" for the final hamza.
                                                                          
              Mike Schub

(Even Harvard Professor Thackston botched this up royally on p. 21(?)  
of his *Grammar of Koranic Arabic.*)
      What a piece of work is man!
                                                                          
         Mike Schub

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2)
Date: 09 Jan 2004
From:nhedayet at yahoo.com
Subject:Al-Imra'a

Yes Mike, one says maru’at al-‘ardu maraa’atan meaning its breeze  
became nice, and that person maru’a  muruu’atan meaning behaved with  
humanliness, chivalry or magnanimity. One also says as a complement  
upon eating: hanee’an maree’an like may the food be pleasant. With the  
noun you can say, in case of using the definite article: al-mar’o and  
al- mir’o and al-mor’o (miim muthallatha and sukuun of the raa’) and if  
the word is indefinite you say:  ‘emru’ by changing of alif al- wasl to  
a kesra while the final hamza of course may be written with any of the  
three chairs depending on this noun case and the plural is ridjaalun=  
men. In case of the feminine form whether definite or indefinite is

  al-mar’to or mar’tun, i.e., miim fatHa only, or by elision of the  
hamza: maratun and the pl. is nisaa’un and niswatun= women. Therefore,  
I think the origin is a miim fatHa as in the verb, verbal noun and the  
feminine form but the story is different if it is preceded by alif al  
wasl,

wa llaahu a’lam

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