Arabic-L:LING:usage of januub vs. januubiyy

[Dilworth Parkinson]

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Date: 15 Dec 2006
From:Dil Parkinson <dil at byu.edu>
Subject:usage of januub vs. januubiyy

Can a native speaker tell me whether there is a consistent difference  
in the usage of the plain cardinal direction terms (januub, sharq,  
etc.) and the nisba adj. versions of those terms (januubiyy,  
sharqiyy) particularly when both are used as first term of an idaafa  
construct.
i.e. is there a difference between januub baghdaad and januubiyy  
baghdaad?
Is there a consistent way to express the difference between 'south of  
Baghdad' and 'in the southern part of Baghdad'?
I have been reading through news articles with students, and not  
having a great grasp on the geography, I'm never sure if the  
'incident' the news article refers to took place inside or outside of  
the place referred to.  Any help will be appreciated.
Dil

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