Arabic-L:LING:Nasrallah's 'r' pronunciation (more)

[Dilworth Parkinson]

------------------------------------------------------------------------
Arabic-L: Thu 27 Jul 2006
Moderator: Dilworth Parkinson <dilworth_parkinson at byu.edu>
[To post messages to the list, send them to arabic-l at byu.edu]
[To unsubscribe, send message from same address you subscribed from to
listserv at byu.edu with first line reading:
            unsubscribe arabic-l                                      ]

-------------------------Directory------------------------------------

1) Subject:Nasrallah's 'r' pronunciation
2) Subject:Nasrallah's 'r' pronunciation
3) Subject:Nasrallah's 'r' pronunciation

-------------------------Messages-----------------------------------
1)
Date: 27 Jul 2006
From:lamanilaila at hotmail.com
Subject:Nasrallah's 'r' pronunciation

Actually, this is not noticed in lebanon only... I am in Jordan right  
now and I met a friend who is Jordanian and has the same "r"  
pronunciation problem.
Also, I am from Morocco and many many people who are from specific  
regions (Fes and Tetouan I believe) have the same thing.
In the Jordanian case I believe that it is a speech impediment (as my  
friend was the only one in his circle with that problem), in Morocco  
I do no think it's an impediment...it's the way a lot of people  
pronounce it... my friends from Fes keep their "r" pronunciation in  
order to show that they are from that area, eventhough they have  
lived in the South all their lives.
I hope this helps somehow.
Laila Lamani.

------------------------------------------------------------------------ 
--
2)
Date: 27 Jul 2006
From:Ferida Jawad <feridajawad at gmail.com>
Subject:Nasrallah's 'r' pronunciation

The phenomenon of being "aldagh" or "ladgha" with regard to the  
letter "ra" is not limited to Lebanon, nor to men. It is a general  
speech impediment, found throughout the Arab world and beyond that in  
many different countries where the letter "r" is mispronounced or  
pronounced differently by many people (ranging from a rolling r to a  
ghayn to a waw, a ya, and in some countries an L). It is similar to a  
lisp, which is refered to in Arabic as 'aldagh fi-s-sin', you are  
born with it and generally do not require surgery, just a good speech  
pathologist and understanding family and friends.

Best regards, Ferida Jawad

------------------------------------------------------------------------ 
--
3)
Date: 27 Jul 2006
From:Abdelaziz.Abbassi at monterey.army.mil
Subject:Nasrallah's 'r' pronunciation

Response to the ‘R’ W/Y  Query:

I am responding to those who label this not-so-uncommon (perhaps a  
communal dialect) phenomenon—in fact across the Arab world  
continuum-- as a “speech defect”. If this were indeed the case, then  
we would have most, if not all, of the original inhabitants of one  
the historical centers of Arabic civilization and Arabic language  
learning, Fes, as having a speech defect. I have noted the same with  
a number of Egyptian and Palestinian colleagues.

Aziz

Abdelaziz Abbassi, PhD
Dean
DLIFLC-CE
Extension Programs
Telephone: (831)-242-4696

------------------------------------------------------------------------ 
--
End of Arabic-L:  27 Jul 2006