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1)
Date: 03 Jan 2010
From:John Joseph Colangelo <colangelomutarjim at gmail.com>
Subject:more on AHad
Hi Alexis,
It is the first one as the pronoun concords with the /mubtada/ or
nominal subject.
My 2 cents ...
John
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2)
Date: 03 Jan 2010
From:sattar izwaini <sattarumist at yahoo.co.uk>
Subject:more on AHad
The question was:
Are both "huwa" and "hiya" possible and correct? and how can you explain this ?
Ø±Ø¹Ø§ÙØ© اÙÙ
رض٠ÙÙ Ø£ØØ¯ Ø£ÙØ¯Ø§Ù اÙÙ
ؤسسة
Ø±Ø¹Ø§ÙØ© اÙÙ
رض٠ÙÙ Ø£ØØ¯ Ø£ÙØ¯Ø§Ù اÙÙ
ؤسسة
The answer is no. The pronoun should agree with the gender of Ø±Ø¹Ø§ÙØ© which is feminine, and thus it has to be ÙÙ. So the 2nd version is ill-formed.
The confusion seems to spring from the fact the Ø£ØØ¯ is masculine. It has nothing to do with the feminine Ø±Ø¹Ø§ÙØ©. It has to be masculine, i.e. Ø£ØØ¯ since the singular of Ø£ÙØ¯Ø§Ù, namely ÙØ¯Ù is masculine. By the way, many words that are masculine in singluar have their plural form feminine, e.g. ÙÙÙ
, جبÙ, and ÙÙÙ
.
If the structure is changed, ÙÙ has to be used:
Ø¥Ù Ø£ØØ¯ Ø£ÙØ¯Ø§Ù اÙÙ
ؤسسة ÙÙ Ø±Ø¹Ø§ÙØ© اÙÙ
رضÙ
I hope this helps.
Regards
Sattar
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3)
Date: 03 Jan 2010
From:Tsvetomira Pashova <tsveta_pashova at yahoo.com>
Subject:more on AHad
Ø±Ø¹Ø§ÙØ© اÙÙ
رض٠ÙÙ Ø£ØØ¯ Ø£ÙØ¯Ø§Ù اÙÙ
ؤسسة
The pronoun corefers anaforically with Ø±Ø¹Ø§ÙØ© irrespective of whether you treat it as a subject in a Topic Subject Predicate sentence or as a kind of nominal copula. The two analyses may be viewed as two stages of a diachronic development (a process of grammaticalization).
Greetings,
Assoc.Prof. Tsvetomira Pashova, Ph.D.
Department of Arabic & Semitic Studies
Center for Oriental Languages & Cultures
Sofia University "St. Kliment Ohridsky"
Address: 79 Todor Alexandrov Blvd.
Sofia 1303, Bulgaria
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4)
Date: 03 Jan 2010
From:Tsvetomira Pashova <tsveta_pashova at yahoo.com>
Subject:more on AHad
Maybe this will help!
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Assoc. Prof. Tsvetomira Pashova, Ph.D.
Department of Arabic & Semitic Studies
Sofia University "St. Kliment Ohridsky"
79 Todor Alexandrov Blvd., 1303 Sofia, Bulgaria
tsveta_pashova at yahoo.com
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4)
Date: 03 Jan 2010
From:<m7schub at aol.de>
Subject:more on AHad
AND; (4) if the partitive /min/ is used one has to say:
(a) /waaHidun mina l-ahdaafi/ and
(b) /waaHidatun mina l-banaati/.
Mike Schub m7schub at aol.com
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