Arabic-L:GEN:"Berber" vs. "Tamazight"

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1) Subject: "Berber" vs. "Tamazight"

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Date: 04 Sep 2013
From: "Adil AIT HAMD" <adilaithamd at gmail.com>
Subject: "Berber" vs. "Tamazight"

Dear Abderrahman Zouhir,

    I agree with your analysis. However, the term Tamazight does not refer
solely to the language spoken mostly in the Middle Atlas, it refers to the
"Berber" culture as a whole.

    When you hear Tamazight, it refers to the Amazigh languages, including
those spoken outside of Morocco, as well as the customs, tradition, etc.

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Date: 04 Sep 2013
From: Aissa, Abderrahman <aaissa at wesleyan.edu>
Subject: "Berber" vs. "Tamazight"

Salaam,

1. Tamazight refers to all sorts of "berber" language varieties, a person
from jebel "nafoosa" in Lybia or  southern Algeria speaks a lanauage called
Tamazight just like someone from the Middle Atlas Mountains.

2. Imazighen is a general term that refers to all sorts of 'berber' people
in North Africa and the northern
parts of the great Sahara.
Rifee people's language in Northern Morocco and Chleuh's language in SW
Morocco along with the Chawiya's and the 9bayl's languages in Algeria and
other parts of North Africa have a local name for their language variety
(tarifit, tachlheet .. etc), but the ARE all considered varieties of
Tamazight.

3. By the way the word "Imazighen" means "the free people", so the language
denomination is rather linked
to the people's classification.

4. Finally, "bra bra bra" in Greek, became le "bla bla bla" in today's
vernacular French and "bla bla bla" in English, which are all linked to the
name "Berber" given by the Greeks to the people of North Africa. the Greeks
a) couldn't understand what the "Berbers" were saying and  b) the 'berbers"
 were "Barbaros", since everyone else was seen less civilized by the Greeks
at that time (by the Greeks)

Peace and Love!

Abderrahman Aissa,
Wesleyan University,
Middletown. CT

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