Fwd: RE: John Dingley:Etymology of Gaelic 'bat'

[Elizabeth J. Pyatt]

From: "Kevin Riley" <klriley at alphalink.com.au>
To: "The Celtic Linguistics List" <CELTLING at LISTSERV.LINGUISTLIST.ORG>
Subject: RE: John Dingley:Etymology of Gaelic 'bat'
Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2003 12:46:19 +1000


'Dialtag' and 'ialtag' are dialectal variants, with 'ialtag' recognised as
the original form.  The Irish is still 'iathla' as well as 'ialtánn' and
'ialtóg' [from which Gaelic 'ialtag' is derived, 'ó' > 'a' being a regular
development in Ulster and Scotland], which supports the derivation from
'iatlu'.  MacBain gives 'dealtach anmoch' as a dialect form.  Neither
'dialtag' nor 'dealtag' are likely to be connected with 'dall'.

Kevin Riley



>>From: The Celtic Linguistics List
>>[mailto:CELTLING at LISTSERV.LINGUISTLIST.ORG]On Behalf Of Elizabeth J.
>>Pyatt
>>Sent: Wednesday, 16 July 2003 10:15 PM
>>From: "John Dingley" <jdingley at YorkU.CA>
>>To: CELTLING at LISTSERV.LINGUISTLIST.ORG
>>Subject: bat
>>
>>
>>Hi,
>>
>>Might someone be able to help me out?
>>
>>I have been looking high and low for the etymology of the following
>>Celtic words for "bat", viz. Gaelic "dialtag" (earlier "ialtag"?)
>>and Irish "ialtÛg". One source gave these as diminutives of an
>>earlier "iatlu" by metathesis, but offered no etymology.
>>
>>I was wondering if the Celtic "dall" = "blind" might be involved.
>>Cf. Breton "logod dall" = "blind mouse".
>>
>>Thanks in advance.
>>
>>Best,
>>John Dingley

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