Brian Doyle 2002 enrollment figures from MLA

[Elizabeth J. Pyatt]

>
From: "" <brian at gael-image.com>
To: The Celtic Linguistics List <CELTLING at LISTSERV.LINGUISTLIST.ORG>
Cc: "" <gleeson at uwm.edu>
Subject: Re: 2002 enrollment figures from MLA



Likewise, I would be curious how this data is compiled. For instance, the
table has rows for both "Irish" and "Irish, Modern." I would assume that,
unless the name specifically says Old Irish or Middle Irish, the modern
vernacular could be assumed.

The University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee offers Irish every semester through
the Linguistics Department. However, UWM's course schedule lists the classes
as "First Semester of an Uncommonly Taught Language," "Second Semester...,"
and so on. Only the secondary topic field designates the classes as Irish.
(See <http://www.uwm.edu/schedule/Spring2004/LINGUIS.html#132>.)

I wonder if the data collection method is sophisticated enough to drill down
and tally these courses. If not, then one would assume that the numbers are
low.

Sincerely,
Brian Doyle
Graduate Student, Linguistics
Northeastern Illinois University

>



>
>Sincerely,
>Brian Doyle
>Graduate Student, Linguistics
>Northeastern Illinois University
>
>Quoting "Elizabeth J. Pyatt" <ejp10 at psu.edu>:
>
>>  FYI -  Celtic-T has published figures for Celtic language enrollment
>>  from the MLA survey of higher education language enrollments in the
>>  U.S.
>>
>>  However, I do wonder if these figures take into account that some
>>  language courses are only offered every 2-3 years. That might explain
>>  some discrepancies.
>>
>>  Cheers
>>
>>  Elizabeth
>>
>>  Elizabeth J. Pyatt, Ph.D.
>>  http://www.personal.psu.edu/ejp10
>>
>>  >Approved-By: lctl at UMN.EDU
>>  >X-Umn-Remote-Mta: [N] mhub-w5.tc.umn.edu #+LO+NM+UF+CL (L,-)
>>  >X-Umn-Report-As-Spam:
>>  ><http://umn.edu/mc/
>s?DLG6JakIFKAy91nMT6$rVA2jlyGQwsEauqWHYmQtOEG0V578o1Okj5X at 8$XTFHPHRt at EEMBtjI
>I92OIs$bWHI$g>
>>  >X-Umn-Remote-Mta: [N] x94-62-55.ej1201.umn.edu #+HF+LO
>>  >X-Sender: lctl at lctl.email.umn.edu
>>  >Date:         Thu, 13 Nov 2003 10:48:07 -0600
>>  >Reply-To: "LCTL proj. coordinator" <lctl at UMN.EDU>
>>  >Sender: Celtic language teachers mailing list <CELTIC-T at LISTS.UMN.EDU>
>>  >From: "LCTL proj. coordinator" <lctl at UMN.EDU>
>>  >Subject:      [CELTIC-T] 2002 enrollment figures from MLA
>>  >To: CELTIC-T at LISTS.UMN.EDU
>>  >
>>  >I have been sent a pre-publication copy of the MLA survey of Higher
>>  >Education Foreign Language Enrollments in the US. The full report
>>  >will be published in the ADFL Bulletin, Winter 2004.
>>  >
>>  >But I thought you might like to see the figures for the Celtic languages:
>>  >(I am using the names and enrollments exactly as they appear in the
>>  >MLA report.)
>>  >
>>  >Language    			1998             2002
>>  >
>>  >Gaelic, Scottish       	50                4
>>  >Irish                          278               705
>>  >Irish, Modern                  0                 8
>>  >Irish, Old                     48                3
>>  >Welsh                          17                32
>>  >Welsh, Early                   0                 6
>>  >
>>  >
>>  >
>>  >
>>  >To get some sense, here are a few non-Celtic enrollments
>>  >
>>  >Spanish       656,590             746,602
>>  >French        199,064             202,014
>>  >German         89,020             100,112
>>  >Swahili         1,241               1,593
>>  >Yiddish           338                 438
>>  >Modern Greek      646                 804
>>  >
>>  >Louis
>>  >
>>  >--
>>  >=====================================================
>>  >Louis Janus
>>  >  Less Commonly Taught Languages (LCTL) Project
>>  >  Center for Advanced Research on Language Acquisition (CARLA)
>>  >  University of Minnesota
>>  >  617 Heller Hall
>>  >  271 19th Avenue So.
>>  >  Minneapolis, MN 55455 USA
>>  >  phone: 612/624-9016; fax: 612/624-7514
>>  >-------------------------------
>>  >LCTL at umn.edu
>>  >-------------------------------
>>  ><http://carla.acad.umn.edu/LCTL>
>>  ><http://carla.acad.umn.edu/profiles/janus-profile.html>
>>  >=====================================================
>>
>>
>>  --
>>  o.o.o.o.o.o.o.o.o.o
>  >
>>  CELTLING
>>  Post: celtling at lists.linguistlist.org OR
>celtling at listserv.linguistlist.org
>>  Archives: <http://listserv.linguistlist.org/archives/celtling.html>
>>  Subscribe/Unsubscribe - Go to Archives, then click "Join or leave" link
>>
>>  Website: <http://www.personal.psu.edu/ejp10/celtling>


--
o.o.o.o.o.o.o.o.o.o

CELTLING
Post: celtling at lists.linguistlist.org OR celtling at listserv.linguistlist.org
Archives: <http://listserv.linguistlist.org/archives/celtling.html>
Subscribe/Unsubscribe - Go to Archives, then click "Join or leave" link

Website: <http://www.personal.psu.edu/ejp10/celtling>