FW: Pict Language research question from Australia
polarstar at WEB.DE
polarstar at WEB.DE
Wed Jul 26 21:08:16 UTC 2006
Well, I assumed that the story is supposed to take place among the Picts, so their local name for the place would rather be Pictish (whatever that is), even if a Gaelic name was later attached to the place by incoming Gaels (who might even have had a name for it, as you suggest, from afar, not living there).
Mona
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> The Gaels, like most other people, would have had names for many places long before they had a linguistic presence there. People have names for important places, even when they never will have native speakers living on a permanent basis there.
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> Welsh has names for many foreign places such as Mynyddoedd Mynnau for the Alps.
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> The most relevant article I'm aware of is Kaherine Forsyth's entry in The Oxford Companion to Scottish History: 'languages of Scotland, pre-1100. It's a little long to summarise, but if you remind me of the details of the question I'll see what she has to say.
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> polarstar at WEB.DE wrote: But would the assumption of a Gaelic name fit with the area as mentioned for that period?
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> > Aaah I think its still very
> > much open to debate whether Pictish was P-Celtic, or Celtic at all.
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> > I would say that NO guess can be made as
> > to a Pictish name, all that the author could do is assume that Old Irish
> > speaking Gaels had named the Bay, and go with Old Irish
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