3rd or 4th language

[Joyce Marzan]

My thanks to both Brian and Shelley. The [- una] is a great idea as
well. Hadn't thought of that. It is perfect for words that could (or
do) belong to both languages. Thank you,

Joyce

On Mar 22, 11:07 pm, Shelley Brundage <shelley.brund... at gmail.com>
wrote:
> hi Joyce
> We are running into a similar issue in my lab.  We have four precodes:
> English [- eng], Spanish [- spa], Mixed [- mix], and unassigned [- una].  I
> added the mix and una to the ISO-639 file and the files pass CHECK.  Doing
> it this way allows us to quickly sort those utterances that are so
> unintelligible that we cannot assign a language, or where what is said
> could be either language (both types are coded with the UNA precode), and
> those that contain code switches (the MIX precode).  My bet is that later
> on we will be going back to the MIXed utterances to further code the nature
> of the code switches, as you describe below with @s...
>
> Sorry I can't answer the question about the +l switch.
>
> Shelley Brundage
>
> On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 2:22 AM, Joyce Marzan <jcbmar... at post.upm.edu.ph>wrote:
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> > i have a question about tagging words in a 3rd or 4th language:
>
> > when working with children who speak both Tagalog & English, we have
> > been using the folllowing header line:
>
> > @Languages:     tgl, eng
>
> > and marking use of the second language in the main tiers by using the
> > @s postcode or [- eng] precode.
>
> > sometimes in these bilingual transcripts, one or more speakers will
> > use a third language. should we then add the third language to the
> > header line? For example, if the third language is Cebuano:
>
> > @Languages:     tgl, eng, ceb
>
> > then tag with the precode [- ceb] or @s:ceb whenever a word or phrase
> > is used?
>
> > The additional languages used by the parents or caregivers in our
> > study are either Cebuano or Hilgaynon. These are not yet part of the
> > ISO-639.cut in the CHILDES\CLAN\lib\fixes folder. Based on
> >http://www.sil.org/iso639-3/codes.asp, the codes are ceb and hil.
> > Should i add these to my ISO-639.cut file? or to the depfile.cut? So
> > that when I use the +l switch to extract lexicon the cebuano and
> > hilgaynon words will be tagged?
>
> > Thank you!
>
> > Joyce Marzan
>
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