MOR with (un)til, (be)cause, etc.

[Stephen Wilson]

Hi Leonid,

Thanks for your reply. I just downloaded the latest version of clan (V 
08-Feb-2013 11:00), as well as the mor grammar (from 
http://childes.psy.cmu.edu/morgrams/), and recompiled. Unfortunately I got 
the same result as before:

*PAR: (a)bout (un)til (th)em .
%mor: ?|abutt conj|until^prep|until ?|theem .

I am using clan on Ubuntu 10.04. I compile with:
CC = g++
and
CFLAGS = -DUNX -Wno-deprecated -Wno-deprecated-declarations

The first line of the make file mentions using the -m32 option, but that 
gives an error, so I don't do that.

Could you please let me know if you're able to replicate the strange 
behavior on unix clan, or if I might be doing something wrong when 
compiling or anything else?

Thanks a lot,

best,
Stephen


On Wednesday, February 6, 2013 3:20:03 PM UTC-7, Spektor, Leonid: CMU wrote:
>
> Stephen,
>
> I just tested the latest version of CLAN on both Mac and Windows PC and 
> after running MOR on your sample tier below I get the following correct 
> result:
>
> *PAR: (a)bout (un)til (th)em .
> %mor: prep|about^adv|about prep|until^conj|until pro:obj|them .
>
> Please, make sure that you have the latest version of CLAN and MOR 
> grammar. If you do have the latest versions, then please try to quit CLAN 
> and restart it. Maybe CLAN got into bad state. If after using the latest 
> CLAN/grammar and restarting CLAN, you still get this problem, then please 
> email to me the data file and command line that produced bad result.
>
>
> Leonid.
>
>
>  
> On Feb 6, 2013, at 16:45 , Stephen Wilson wrote:
>
> MOR does not seem to handle "noncompletion" of words as expected, e.g. 
> (un)til, (be)cause.
>
> According to the CHAT manual: "CLAN will treat items that are coded in 
> this way as full words. For programs such as FREQ, the parentheses will 
> essentially be ignored and (be)cause will be treated as if it were because."
>
> But does this not apply to MOR? I get this as my parse:
>
> *PAR: (a)bout (un)til (th)em .
> %mor: ?|abutt conj|until^prep|until ?|theem .
>
> thanks,
> Stephen
>
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