combination of different codes in the commands window?

Sabrina Geyer sabrina.geyer at online.de
Wed Feb 5 12:23:48 UTC 2014


Dear Brian, dear Leonid,

thank you for your very helpful and detailed answer!! I checked the Manual 
and tried out COMBO - It works and was exactly what I needed!

Thank you very much!
best wishes,
Sabrina

Am Dienstag, 4. Februar 2014 18:07:55 UTC+1 schrieb Spektor, Leonid: CMU:
>
> Sabrina,
>
> Do you always have the same number of error codes/sub-codes per each %err: 
> tier as number of reaction codes per corresponding %rea: tier? Do the codes 
> on both tiers align, in other words does the first code on %rea: tier 
> always goes with the first code on the %err tier and the second code 
> on %rea: tier always goes with the second code on the %err tier and so on? 
> if the codes are not aligned or there more or less codes on %err: than on 
> %rea: tier, then I would recommend to use KWAL command to search for a 
> particular code on %err: tier and include the %rea: tier in the output. For 
> example, assuming that your %err: and %rea: codes start with “$” then try 
> command:
>
> kwal +t%err +s$err_code +o%rea:
>
>
> If you know both %err: codes and corresponding %rea: codes, then try COMBO 
> command:
>
> combo +g5 +s$err_code^*^$rea_code +t%err +t%rea: 
>
>
> Leonid.
>
>
>  
> On Feb 4, 2014, at 10:46, Brian MacWhinney <ma... at cmu.edu <javascript:>> 
> wrote:
>
> Dear Sabrina,
>
>      It would actually be a bit easier if you developed a coding system 
> that put everything on a single line.  You can read Chapter 6 of the CLAN 
> manual about how to use Coder Mode to do this, and chapter 14 of the CHAT 
> manual described the INCA coding system of Ninio and Wheeler that 
> exemplifies the approach.  In your case, for example there would be codes 
> such as $err:*  and $rea:*  that characterize the errors and the responses. 
>  The asterisk indicates some further levels of the coding system you might 
> create.   You can then use KWAL search patterns to track combination of 
> errors and reactions.  
>     This can also be done, as you suggest by simply merging the two types 
> of information into single codes, again within the general framework of 
> systems such as INCA.  Actually, I think that is the most straightforward 
> approach.
>     You may feel that it is necessary to separate this information so that 
> errors are coded for the child and reactions for the adult.  In that case, 
> you can create more complex search strings using cross-tier COMBO, as 
> described in section 9.4.4 and 9.4.5 of the CLAN manual.
>
> Best regards,
>
> — Brian MacWhinney
>
> On Feb 4, 2014, at 10:29 AM, Sabrina Geyer <sabrin... at online.de<javascript:>> 
> wrote:
>
> Dear all, 
>
> I have a question concerning some tools of the CLAN programs. I've been 
> reading the manual, but couldn't find an answer so I hope that someone of 
> you could help me to solve my problem. 
>
> I would like to combine different codes I've created so that I can see how 
> often the combination of several codes relating to the same utterance occur 
> in my data. For now, I'm not sure if this is possible - if this is the 
> case, I have no idea how to realise this in the commands window of CLAN. 
>
> To be sure that you understand me correctly I'd like to give you an 
> example: Among other things, I'd like to analyse how caretakers react to 
> different ill-formed utterances of children they interact with. To 
> categorise the different errors of the children I created the line "%err" 
> with several subcodes. To categorise the caretaker's reaction I created the 
> line "%rea" with different subcodes. I’d now like to see whether the 
> caretakers in my data react differently to different errors the children 
> make.
>
> Does CLAN offer any possibility to do this without unifying the two codes 
> in one?
>
> Thank you for your help! 
> Best wishes,
> Sabrina
>
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